Not me. I live in Canada. If my wage goes down I starve and freeze to death on the street. Then I cannot help
I basically did that and ended up with PTSD from working on COVID wards during the pandemic, I’m good thanks.
If a company was not seeking profit, not sure why they would be paying lower wages… Profits are, essentially, unpaid wages.
Would I take less to work at a company providing something valuable sustainably? Many would and do take lower wages to take on jobs that provide them with meaning, already. The book *Bullshit Jobs* has a pretty good chapter on this – a pretty common capitalist tactic to suppress wages. Personally would I? Depends on the offer. But again, if the company is not seeking profit and actually wanted workers, why are they driving wages down?
No.
I make the median income in a HCOL area, that’s a little sad if they can’t pay someone with my experience, $28 an hour.
Id love to, but I’m behind as it is.
100%, are you meaning based on greenwashing and accounting techniques, or actually 100%.
There is a big difference.
If a truly 100% worker co-op existed, it would likely get plenty of support.
People can’t afford to, billionaires can.
Only after there’s a cap put C-Suite compensation.
There’s more than JUST ensuring sustainability.
I need to work at a job I like so it doesn’t feel like work.
I need quality time off to be able to decompress and foster relationships and mental health.
I need to ensure my bills are paid, my health doesn’t suffer, and that I can put enough away for my retirement.
I need to work for a company that isn’t evil.
I need to be able to respect my co-workers and bosses.
I want to be a part of something greater.
I want to be respected for my work ethic, quality, and customer service.
The doughnut seems like an interesting concept, but non-profit doesn’t mean that there’s equality there either.
I’d love for it to be the norm where the employees are like a co-op and all successes (and failures) are on the shoulders of it’s employees.
In a heartbeat. Already volunteering professional skills to a nonprofit
Sustainability is a lie we tell ourselves. We are growing our electricity usage so fast at this point that the power companies are going to lean on fossil fuel to keep pace. Efforts to bring manufacturing back on shore and rapidly growing energy demand from data centers are driving tremendous growth in energy demand.
> In the near term, this load growth may lead utilities to add more fossil generation or delay retirement plans. But, much of the new load growth is demanding clean, zero carbon energy,” he said. “There’s got to be a good mix, or utilities will be building [combustion turbines] to nowhere.”
And while currently many of these companies want green energy – do you believe they will choose to not use electricity if green isn’t available? I don’t.
Sustainability isn’t coming – because this path simply is not sustainable.
This economic system isn’t going to convert to a sustainable system. It’ll collapse into one.
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Why both?
Not me. I live in Canada. If my wage goes down I starve and freeze to death on the street. Then I cannot help
I basically did that and ended up with PTSD from working on COVID wards during the pandemic, I’m good thanks.
If a company was not seeking profit, not sure why they would be paying lower wages… Profits are, essentially, unpaid wages.
Would I take less to work at a company providing something valuable sustainably? Many would and do take lower wages to take on jobs that provide them with meaning, already. The book *Bullshit Jobs* has a pretty good chapter on this – a pretty common capitalist tactic to suppress wages. Personally would I? Depends on the offer. But again, if the company is not seeking profit and actually wanted workers, why are they driving wages down?
No.
I make the median income in a HCOL area, that’s a little sad if they can’t pay someone with my experience, $28 an hour.
Id love to, but I’m behind as it is.
100%, are you meaning based on greenwashing and accounting techniques, or actually 100%.
There is a big difference.
If a truly 100% worker co-op existed, it would likely get plenty of support.
People can’t afford to, billionaires can.
Only after there’s a cap put C-Suite compensation.
There’s more than JUST ensuring sustainability.
I need to work at a job I like so it doesn’t feel like work.
I need quality time off to be able to decompress and foster relationships and mental health.
I need to ensure my bills are paid, my health doesn’t suffer, and that I can put enough away for my retirement.
I need to work for a company that isn’t evil.
I need to be able to respect my co-workers and bosses.
I want to be a part of something greater.
I want to be respected for my work ethic, quality, and customer service.
The doughnut seems like an interesting concept, but non-profit doesn’t mean that there’s equality there either.
I’d love for it to be the norm where the employees are like a co-op and all successes (and failures) are on the shoulders of it’s employees.
In a heartbeat. Already volunteering professional skills to a nonprofit
Sustainability is a lie we tell ourselves. We are growing our electricity usage so fast at this point that the power companies are going to lean on fossil fuel to keep pace. Efforts to bring manufacturing back on shore and rapidly growing energy demand from data centers are driving tremendous growth in energy demand.
> In the near term, this load growth may lead utilities to add more fossil generation or delay retirement plans. But, much of the new load growth is demanding clean, zero carbon energy,” he said. “There’s got to be a good mix, or utilities will be building [combustion turbines] to nowhere.”
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/electricity-load-growing-twice-as-fast-as-expected-Grid-Strategies-report/702366/
And while currently many of these companies want green energy – do you believe they will choose to not use electricity if green isn’t available? I don’t.
Sustainability isn’t coming – because this path simply is not sustainable.
This economic system isn’t going to convert to a sustainable system. It’ll collapse into one.