This would be quite a cool idea. It’s a pain if you need to commute into the city by train and then go get the additional bus/tram/underground.
The key issue is price rather than the slight additional convenience though.
Explored in a new strategy – announced on the day the climate change targets were scrapped. This is 12 years after Deputy Sturgeon said she was looking to do the same thing. Hope it’s true this time but you’ll understand why I’m sceptical
‘Scotland to get X’ is not the same as ‘An MSP has suggested exploring X’.
A klimaticket similar to Austria is the dream, right?
Roughly £1000 per year, unlimited public transport all over the country, or £350 per year for just in one region
I’d definitely get that and use it
This is just a scrambled announcement because they’re having to admit they’re dropping their climate change targets. So I think we can take it with a heavy pinch of salt.
Nicola Sturgeon literally announced they were looking at this in the early days of the SNP Government back in the early 2010s! They’ve done nothing to bring it about in all that time In power.
This is the sort of thing that you need to build infrastructure for over many years. And there’s been no push by the Scottish Government to do that to date. So even if they are now (finally) serious about it, it’s not happening for years.
Just the new world orders digital ID system.
They should have a card that you pay a membership price for like annually and you can use it to pay for all transit. But corporate doesn’t like that.
Edit: I meant to say you don’t tap on and off buses or trains just that you simply walk on and off not needing to deal with single fare or day saver fares or specific train routes to specific cities you just get on whatever public transit you need at any time no need to pay
Please yes, the stupidly fragmented system we have now is a serious issue with our public transport system that makes me far less likely to use it.
It strikes me that this used to be a thing, and/or still is a thing, at least in the Strathclyde Passenger Transport area ?
Used to get the “family day tripper” tickets that let you use bus and train from Ayrshire to Glasgow, in the 1980s. Unlimited travel. Worked on buses, trains, and the Glasgow Underground. Was a few pounds, for like 1 days unlimited travel for 1 adult and 2 children, or 2 adults and 3-4 children for a bit more.
And the Zonecard thing worked for buses and trains as well.
Can someone post the entire article in the comments as is behind a paywall
sooooooo……………………SPT – joining up journeys
Can’t wait to drunkenly pay a taxi driver with one 👍🙏
Switzerland has a similar system that works extremely well
like Portugal then?
This probably has something to do with the SPT announcement. Something, something nationalisation.
It’s laughable that they get away with these sorts of announcements, which are just repeating pledges from over a decade ago that have never materialised.
Shambolic.
Works well in so many other countries around the world.
So there is absolutely no chance it’ll ever be implemented here
Or if it is, it’ll be so costly, overly complex and come with so many restrictions it won’t be worth the hassle to use. In the end it’ll be scrapped with the loss of jobs and wasted millions.
See recycling scheme for more details.
Would i be cynical in thinking that setting up such a system is beyond the wit of our current Holyrood government?
That’ll cost a fortune to research , consult and debate , it’ll then be put out a foreign company, probably German to implement , then it’ll go 300% over budget and then get scrapped because it’s totally unworkable due to the amount of private companies that’ll be impacted . This will all be followed by law suits from companies that have invested but have had to scrap infrastructure and equipment. Sound familiar 🤔
That’ll cost a fortune to research , consult and debate , it’ll then be put out a foreign company, probably German to implement , then it’ll go 300% over budget and then get scrapped because it’s totally unworkable due to the amount of private companies that’ll be impacted . This will all be followed by law suits from companies that have invested but have had to scrap infrastructure and equipment. Sound familiar 🤔
These big ideas get announced all the time but the reality of it is that very few people actually need regular multimodal public transport and those that do can use ZoneCard in the SPT area and One Ticket in Edinburgh. Tripper covers the major bus operators in Glasgow. There’s also, I believe, the ABC (Any Bus Card) in Dundee(?).
As others have said, you can load ticket products for pretty much all operators on an ITSO card, but each purchase is a separate transaction.
When people say they want “integrated public transport” what they mostly mean is joined up so that bus services cover rural areas at times the community needs them and link up with train/ferry services when they need to. “Integrated ticketing” typically translates to a desire for a discount to travel on multiple modes, or the ability to use different operators’ buses.
I’m not sure how significantly Covid has changed it, but multi-modal journeys used to account for less than 5% of commuter trips in Glasgow, and a decent chunk of that 5% will be folk going into Glasgow city centre then onto Subway to get to uni, or West Enders travelling into Glasgow city centre and then onwards to Edinburgh.
Fully integrated tickets would be handy, but I think there are plenty of other big-ticket public transport investments that would be of greater benefit to the public.
Fuck yeah, been wanting this for years.
I use VY here in Oslo and honestly I just put point A to point B and I can use anything
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This would be quite a cool idea. It’s a pain if you need to commute into the city by train and then go get the additional bus/tram/underground.
The key issue is price rather than the slight additional convenience though.
Explored in a new strategy – announced on the day the climate change targets were scrapped. This is 12 years after Deputy Sturgeon said she was looking to do the same thing. Hope it’s true this time but you’ll understand why I’m sceptical
‘Scotland to get X’ is not the same as ‘An MSP has suggested exploring X’.
A klimaticket similar to Austria is the dream, right?
Roughly £1000 per year, unlimited public transport all over the country, or £350 per year for just in one region
I’d definitely get that and use it
This is just a scrambled announcement because they’re having to admit they’re dropping their climate change targets. So I think we can take it with a heavy pinch of salt.
Nicola Sturgeon literally announced they were looking at this in the early days of the SNP Government back in the early 2010s! They’ve done nothing to bring it about in all that time In power.
This is the sort of thing that you need to build infrastructure for over many years. And there’s been no push by the Scottish Government to do that to date. So even if they are now (finally) serious about it, it’s not happening for years.
Just the new world orders digital ID system.
They should have a card that you pay a membership price for like annually and you can use it to pay for all transit. But corporate doesn’t like that.
Edit: I meant to say you don’t tap on and off buses or trains just that you simply walk on and off not needing to deal with single fare or day saver fares or specific train routes to specific cities you just get on whatever public transit you need at any time no need to pay
Please yes, the stupidly fragmented system we have now is a serious issue with our public transport system that makes me far less likely to use it.
It strikes me that this used to be a thing, and/or still is a thing, at least in the Strathclyde Passenger Transport area ?
Used to get the “family day tripper” tickets that let you use bus and train from Ayrshire to Glasgow, in the 1980s. Unlimited travel. Worked on buses, trains, and the Glasgow Underground. Was a few pounds, for like 1 days unlimited travel for 1 adult and 2 children, or 2 adults and 3-4 children for a bit more.
And the Zonecard thing worked for buses and trains as well.
Can someone post the entire article in the comments as is behind a paywall
sooooooo……………………SPT – joining up journeys
Can’t wait to drunkenly pay a taxi driver with one 👍🙏
Switzerland has a similar system that works extremely well
like Portugal then?
This probably has something to do with the SPT announcement. Something, something nationalisation.
It’s laughable that they get away with these sorts of announcements, which are just repeating pledges from over a decade ago that have never materialised.
Shambolic.
Works well in so many other countries around the world.
So there is absolutely no chance it’ll ever be implemented here
Or if it is, it’ll be so costly, overly complex and come with so many restrictions it won’t be worth the hassle to use. In the end it’ll be scrapped with the loss of jobs and wasted millions.
See recycling scheme for more details.
Would i be cynical in thinking that setting up such a system is beyond the wit of our current Holyrood government?
That’ll cost a fortune to research , consult and debate , it’ll then be put out a foreign company, probably German to implement , then it’ll go 300% over budget and then get scrapped because it’s totally unworkable due to the amount of private companies that’ll be impacted . This will all be followed by law suits from companies that have invested but have had to scrap infrastructure and equipment. Sound familiar 🤔
That’ll cost a fortune to research , consult and debate , it’ll then be put out a foreign company, probably German to implement , then it’ll go 300% over budget and then get scrapped because it’s totally unworkable due to the amount of private companies that’ll be impacted . This will all be followed by law suits from companies that have invested but have had to scrap infrastructure and equipment. Sound familiar 🤔
These big ideas get announced all the time but the reality of it is that very few people actually need regular multimodal public transport and those that do can use ZoneCard in the SPT area and One Ticket in Edinburgh. Tripper covers the major bus operators in Glasgow. There’s also, I believe, the ABC (Any Bus Card) in Dundee(?).
As others have said, you can load ticket products for pretty much all operators on an ITSO card, but each purchase is a separate transaction.
When people say they want “integrated public transport” what they mostly mean is joined up so that bus services cover rural areas at times the community needs them and link up with train/ferry services when they need to. “Integrated ticketing” typically translates to a desire for a discount to travel on multiple modes, or the ability to use different operators’ buses.
I’m not sure how significantly Covid has changed it, but multi-modal journeys used to account for less than 5% of commuter trips in Glasgow, and a decent chunk of that 5% will be folk going into Glasgow city centre then onto Subway to get to uni, or West Enders travelling into Glasgow city centre and then onwards to Edinburgh.
Fully integrated tickets would be handy, but I think there are plenty of other big-ticket public transport investments that would be of greater benefit to the public.
Fuck yeah, been wanting this for years.
I use VY here in Oslo and honestly I just put point A to point B and I can use anything