>‘I am willing to do whatever it takes to go on the strait and narrow,’ he said.
What seems to be the problem here?
And yet some old biddy with no priors, who won’t pay her tv licence will go to jail. This cunt has probably already agreed to “keep the peace” several times over.
‘I am willing to do whatever it takes to go on the strait and narrow,’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅
Know him myself 😅
If you steal from people 13 or 14 more times…
He used come in a place i worked robbing it.
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if you were a cop and arrested this guy, you wonder why you bothered….
Perhaps the court service could produce an infographic or database with judges voting records? I think the public have a right to know the performance of those they pay to protect them.
Imagine being the garda prosecuting that case FFS. What an utter waste of their time.
He’ll be out robbing stuff again before the month is out to feed his drug addiction. Govt should just be giving out clean heroin in controlled settings to serious drug addicts like this, as they do in other countries like the Netherlands instead of shoving them out on the street into criminality and dealing with drug gangs to feed their addiction. Cost of providing this would surely be a fraction of the harm caused to the addict and to the rest of society by their other crimes like mugging and burglary.
The judges should be fined if they commit more crimes. The two should be linked.
Imagine I feel guilty if I get stopped by a guard because one of my front lights on my car is out!! My house got robbed before and it took months to get over it and my 87 year old Gran was never the same after her house got burgled. She couldn’t sleep upstairs anymore as she was afraid. It makes me sick that burglars get away with it and the fear they cause is shocking.
Everybody deserves a 214th chance
For those against stronger sentencing , what do you think is a realistic approach to “rehabilitation” or however you want to phrase it for someone like this?
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The only justice they might see is going head on into a lorry on the N7.
The story indicates that:-
– He’d be in prison for a year and a half;
– He’d managed to kick heroin.
What benefit would we get by keeping him in prison for longer?
I have 0 sympathy for burglars, taking away people’s security and comfort in their own homes forever, usually for the sake for a couple hundred quid, scumbags.
The Guards might as well be pissing into the wind with this carry on
A proper scrote that deserves some serious time for sure but I don’t think the media should be publishing the man’s full home address and his mother’s full address.
Wtf is up with that?
Anyone read the article? He’s literally done 7 months in cloverhill on remand over this
I don’t understand why ankle monitors and house arrests aren’t more common if judges refuse to put these repeat offenders in prison.
Now don’t get caught again!
Not a huge fan of 3 strikes laws but maybe we need to have a 200 strike law to account for Irish judges making a total mockery of us.
I want this approach to work, (give an addict a chance etc.) but it just isn’t.
I am not for the Yank policy of 3 strikes but surly their has to be a middle ground with over 200.
You can take McCourt out of court but you can’t take the court out of McCourt
Helen McEntee and FG are pushing for lighter sentences. She wants to treat under 24s as juvenile and wipe criminal records clean at 24. The reasoning behind it is to work out the best outcome for getting the criminal to be a functioning member of society. It’s backed by research but I just can’t agree with it. They think letting someone off so they have a 20% chance of not reoffending (I’m making the number up) is better than keeping the public safe for a while but the person only has a 10% chance of not reoffending. They also believe that a suspended sentence is a huge deterrent; Sure it is to normal people, but normal people aren’t going out and robbing or attacking people. The courts believe that 2 years suspended is significantly more harsh that 2 months in prison, they even believe 2 years suspended is more harsh than 12 months in prison. A suspended sentence is less of a deterrent than a fine to someone who doesn’t care about their criminal reputation.
We need to start doing things to protect ordinary decent people instead of aiming for the best outcome for the criminals. Priority 1 is keeping society safe, after that is achieved we can consider rehabilitation.
We need a slowly growing mandatory minimum sentence. One month per previous conviction already in place at the time of the crime starting with the 4th conviction. If someone has 3 previous convictions they should spend 3 months in prison when they get their 4th. If someone has 12 previous convictions they should spend a year in prison when they get their 13th. Getting to 30 convictions would pretty much take a whole adult lifetime.
He’s learnt his lesson this time
Alright, obviously to the lay man, reading this seems absolutely ridiculous; I really believe that this is a pathetic joke.
But, perhaps someone here with a background in Irish law or an insight into the justice system can shed some light on the situation as to why this is happening so frequently…
I don’t want to hear that it’s too expensive to lock these cunts up because frankly, I don’t believe that.
There has to be a good explanation for this…
These lads with two hundred convictions amaze me. People always go on about how they are a burden to society and a plague upon the locals, robbing and causing problems but the thing that gets me is how fucking BAD they must be at it. There’s only two possibilities. Either they are the getting away with it, let’s be generous and say half the time… that means he’s committed 400 crimes which deserve convictions. Without question, lock that man up. Or, maybe the 200 times he has been caught were the ONLY 200 times he has ever broken the law sufficiently to be convicted of a crime. In that case, he’s the absolute worst criminal in history. Imagine being so bad at something that you’ve been caught doing it two hundred and thirteen times like this chump.
“The judge noted the probation officers view that he was likely to reoffend”… You think? Like just because he has been caught 213 times, so just about once a month every month for the last twenty years, you think he’s going to reoffend? The best thing to do in this case is, of course, to set him free and just hope that this time he’ll change. Unbefuckinglievable.
Can somebody explain what the fuck a conviction is? I thought I knew what it is but it’s lost all meaning at this stage.
Is it the same thing that prevents you from traveling to the states etc.? What other purpose does it serve?
I’ve always said the sentence for a crime should be multiplied by the number of previous convictions. No one would get to 20 at that rate, let alone 200. Repeated suspended sentences are telling the criminal you’re getting away with it, so there’s no reason to stop or think twice the next time.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me 200 times something something.
Judges are mocking us. They’re out of touch with reality.
I wonder how many people in the state have over 200 convictions compared to other countries of similar size.
FUCK. THIS. JUSTICE. SYSTEM. WHAT. A. JOKE.
Firstly, the population of Ireland has gone from 3.7m to 4.9m since we last opened a prison (Portlaoise, 2000).
We need another one at least – it’s just simple maths. It might be unpopular but it absolutely has to be done.
Secondly, there’s a whole load of grey area between brutal and ludicrous US-style 3 strikes laws and letting lads with 200+ convictions roam free. There needs to be some kind of accelerator / multiplier after multiple convictions. Not so much that you could go away for life for smoking a spliff, but enough that if you convict again and again you’re guaranteed to be separated from society.
It shouldn’t be possible to get 213 convictions
You should be given life in prison before you get anywhere close to that
What’s the going rate that a barrister gets for defending a scumbag like this? €10k? And the solicitor? Another 10k? And the same for the prosecution? And the judge and various admin staff in the courts office. Say another 10k between them.
Probably all told not much change for the taxpayer out of €50k per case.
200 convictions (and an unknown number of acquittals). That’s at least €10million that lad has made for the parasites in the Justice industry. It’s no wonder they keep the bastard walking the streets committing crimes. Financially it is in their interest to keep him out of jail. If that is not a conflict of interest what is. Mandatory minimum sentence after the 5th conviction would take that discretion out of the hands of the parasitic lawyers.
Not to downplay the reasonable comments here on (a) the impact of burglary on people’s lives, (b) the weaknesses of the Irish justice system…but…he had already served 7 months on remand for the crime of stealing less than €200 worth of copper piping (this was the repair bill to replace and install what he stole).
I’m a strong supporter of tougher sentences for certain crimes (particularly those driven by a lack of empathy or malice) but when it comes to those committed as a result of addiction its clear that tougher sentencing, and the current rehabilitation programs, do not work. I don’t like the application of the Norwegian prison system to all offenders but for non-violent, low-income offenders (particularly those driven by addiction, poverty, and/or a lack of opportunity) it seems to do a better job at reducing recidivism than others.
Christ our judicial system is an absolute fucking circus
Our legal system is a scam designed to extract money from the country. Everybody’s fees got paid so it was a good days work for all involved.
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We need a new prison
And proper rehab programmes for offenders
>‘I am willing to do whatever it takes to go on the strait and narrow,’ he said.
What seems to be the problem here?
And yet some old biddy with no priors, who won’t pay her tv licence will go to jail. This cunt has probably already agreed to “keep the peace” several times over.
‘I am willing to do whatever it takes to go on the strait and narrow,’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅
Know him myself 😅
If you steal from people 13 or 14 more times…
He used come in a place i worked robbing it.
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if you were a cop and arrested this guy, you wonder why you bothered….
Perhaps the court service could produce an infographic or database with judges voting records? I think the public have a right to know the performance of those they pay to protect them.
Imagine being the garda prosecuting that case FFS. What an utter waste of their time.
He’ll be out robbing stuff again before the month is out to feed his drug addiction. Govt should just be giving out clean heroin in controlled settings to serious drug addicts like this, as they do in other countries like the Netherlands instead of shoving them out on the street into criminality and dealing with drug gangs to feed their addiction. Cost of providing this would surely be a fraction of the harm caused to the addict and to the rest of society by their other crimes like mugging and burglary.
The judges should be fined if they commit more crimes. The two should be linked.
Imagine I feel guilty if I get stopped by a guard because one of my front lights on my car is out!! My house got robbed before and it took months to get over it and my 87 year old Gran was never the same after her house got burgled. She couldn’t sleep upstairs anymore as she was afraid. It makes me sick that burglars get away with it and the fear they cause is shocking.
Everybody deserves a 214th chance
For those against stronger sentencing , what do you think is a realistic approach to “rehabilitation” or however you want to phrase it for someone like this?
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The only justice they might see is going head on into a lorry on the N7.
The story indicates that:-
– He’d be in prison for a year and a half;
– He’d managed to kick heroin.
What benefit would we get by keeping him in prison for longer?
I have 0 sympathy for burglars, taking away people’s security and comfort in their own homes forever, usually for the sake for a couple hundred quid, scumbags.
The Guards might as well be pissing into the wind with this carry on
A proper scrote that deserves some serious time for sure but I don’t think the media should be publishing the man’s full home address and his mother’s full address.
Wtf is up with that?
Anyone read the article? He’s literally done 7 months in cloverhill on remand over this
I don’t understand why ankle monitors and house arrests aren’t more common if judges refuse to put these repeat offenders in prison.
Now don’t get caught again!
Not a huge fan of 3 strikes laws but maybe we need to have a 200 strike law to account for Irish judges making a total mockery of us.
I want this approach to work, (give an addict a chance etc.) but it just isn’t.
I am not for the Yank policy of 3 strikes but surly their has to be a middle ground with over 200.
You can take McCourt out of court but you can’t take the court out of McCourt
Helen McEntee and FG are pushing for lighter sentences. She wants to treat under 24s as juvenile and wipe criminal records clean at 24. The reasoning behind it is to work out the best outcome for getting the criminal to be a functioning member of society. It’s backed by research but I just can’t agree with it. They think letting someone off so they have a 20% chance of not reoffending (I’m making the number up) is better than keeping the public safe for a while but the person only has a 10% chance of not reoffending. They also believe that a suspended sentence is a huge deterrent; Sure it is to normal people, but normal people aren’t going out and robbing or attacking people. The courts believe that 2 years suspended is significantly more harsh that 2 months in prison, they even believe 2 years suspended is more harsh than 12 months in prison. A suspended sentence is less of a deterrent than a fine to someone who doesn’t care about their criminal reputation.
We need to start doing things to protect ordinary decent people instead of aiming for the best outcome for the criminals. Priority 1 is keeping society safe, after that is achieved we can consider rehabilitation.
We need a slowly growing mandatory minimum sentence. One month per previous conviction already in place at the time of the crime starting with the 4th conviction. If someone has 3 previous convictions they should spend 3 months in prison when they get their 4th. If someone has 12 previous convictions they should spend a year in prison when they get their 13th. Getting to 30 convictions would pretty much take a whole adult lifetime.
He’s learnt his lesson this time
Alright, obviously to the lay man, reading this seems absolutely ridiculous; I really believe that this is a pathetic joke.
But, perhaps someone here with a background in Irish law or an insight into the justice system can shed some light on the situation as to why this is happening so frequently…
I don’t want to hear that it’s too expensive to lock these cunts up because frankly, I don’t believe that.
There has to be a good explanation for this…
These lads with two hundred convictions amaze me. People always go on about how they are a burden to society and a plague upon the locals, robbing and causing problems but the thing that gets me is how fucking BAD they must be at it. There’s only two possibilities. Either they are the getting away with it, let’s be generous and say half the time… that means he’s committed 400 crimes which deserve convictions. Without question, lock that man up. Or, maybe the 200 times he has been caught were the ONLY 200 times he has ever broken the law sufficiently to be convicted of a crime. In that case, he’s the absolute worst criminal in history. Imagine being so bad at something that you’ve been caught doing it two hundred and thirteen times like this chump.
“The judge noted the probation officers view that he was likely to reoffend”… You think? Like just because he has been caught 213 times, so just about once a month every month for the last twenty years, you think he’s going to reoffend? The best thing to do in this case is, of course, to set him free and just hope that this time he’ll change. Unbefuckinglievable.
Can somebody explain what the fuck a conviction is? I thought I knew what it is but it’s lost all meaning at this stage.
Is it the same thing that prevents you from traveling to the states etc.? What other purpose does it serve?
I’ve always said the sentence for a crime should be multiplied by the number of previous convictions. No one would get to 20 at that rate, let alone 200. Repeated suspended sentences are telling the criminal you’re getting away with it, so there’s no reason to stop or think twice the next time.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me 200 times something something.
Judges are mocking us. They’re out of touch with reality.
I wonder how many people in the state have over 200 convictions compared to other countries of similar size.
FUCK. THIS. JUSTICE. SYSTEM. WHAT. A. JOKE.
Firstly, the population of Ireland has gone from 3.7m to 4.9m since we last opened a prison (Portlaoise, 2000).
We need another one at least – it’s just simple maths. It might be unpopular but it absolutely has to be done.
Secondly, there’s a whole load of grey area between brutal and ludicrous US-style 3 strikes laws and letting lads with 200+ convictions roam free. There needs to be some kind of accelerator / multiplier after multiple convictions. Not so much that you could go away for life for smoking a spliff, but enough that if you convict again and again you’re guaranteed to be separated from society.
It shouldn’t be possible to get 213 convictions
You should be given life in prison before you get anywhere close to that
What’s the going rate that a barrister gets for defending a scumbag like this? €10k? And the solicitor? Another 10k? And the same for the prosecution? And the judge and various admin staff in the courts office. Say another 10k between them.
Probably all told not much change for the taxpayer out of €50k per case.
200 convictions (and an unknown number of acquittals). That’s at least €10million that lad has made for the parasites in the Justice industry. It’s no wonder they keep the bastard walking the streets committing crimes. Financially it is in their interest to keep him out of jail. If that is not a conflict of interest what is. Mandatory minimum sentence after the 5th conviction would take that discretion out of the hands of the parasitic lawyers.
Not to downplay the reasonable comments here on (a) the impact of burglary on people’s lives, (b) the weaknesses of the Irish justice system…but…he had already served 7 months on remand for the crime of stealing less than €200 worth of copper piping (this was the repair bill to replace and install what he stole).
I’m a strong supporter of tougher sentences for certain crimes (particularly those driven by a lack of empathy or malice) but when it comes to those committed as a result of addiction its clear that tougher sentencing, and the current rehabilitation programs, do not work. I don’t like the application of the Norwegian prison system to all offenders but for non-violent, low-income offenders (particularly those driven by addiction, poverty, and/or a lack of opportunity) it seems to do a better job at reducing recidivism than others.
Christ our judicial system is an absolute fucking circus
Our legal system is a scam designed to extract money from the country. Everybody’s fees got paid so it was a good days work for all involved.
It’s NOT about justice!