Ukraine is ignoring US warnings to end drone operations inside Russia

https://www.economist.com/europe/2024/04/18/ukraine-is-ignoring-us-warnings-to-end-drone-operations-inside-russia

by BkkGrl

35 comments

  1. So Russia gets away with war crimes while Ukraine has to follow some arbitrary rules? How did the West become this pathetic?

  2. The sad part is that there’s actually some concern in regards to this because US-voters are gullible enough to believe that the president controls gas prices – which might help Trump to get elected – which will kill Ukraine’s chances of survival entirely.

    Also, fuck US-Republicans.

  4. Ukraine is doing everything right. Until there is sufficient help, you need to beat the enemy on your own.

  5. Which warning? They never condemned these attacks. They just said they don’t support them. Between condemnation and support there is a wide range of IDGAF.

  7. Hey we give you the old stuff from our stock as long and as slow as needed but not as much and fast as needed, we also hold back the aid for you because we need to use you for our own advantage, but please don’t bomb Russia. /s

  8. It’s kind of sad and fun how the US approach to Israel and Ukraine differ

  9. > A guard looks on nervously. With every step, the air thickens with the smell of petrol. Around a corner is the workshop, and the buzz of manufacturing. Inside, lab-coated technicians are busy assembling grey birds under the glow of overhead lights. Young men in t-shirts scuttle about, before packing the drones in boxes for onward delivery. The destination for some of them will be 1,000km away and more—hunting for important targets inside Russia.
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    > Since President Volodymyr Zelensky prioritised the technology, Ukraine has invested hundreds of millions of dollars into long-range drones, capable of searching out and striking distant targets. Half a dozen firms now make them.
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    > Read more of our recent coverage of the Ukraine war
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    > The best of the new models has a range of 3,000km, able to reach Siberia. Born out of necessity—the West has been reluctant to provide Ukraine with long-range weapons—the programme has disrupted much of Russia’s oil and military infrastructure. But the White House is not happy. It is pushing the Ukrainians to stop the strikes.
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    > America’s concerns have varied, from a rise in the oil price to the prospect of an uncontrollable tit-for-tat in which Ukraine could end up the loser. Fears of the latter rose in late March, when Russia inflicted millions of dollars of damage on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure. The attacks revealed gaps in air defences and vulnerabilities to Russia’s new Kh-69 low-altitude cruise missile. On April 11th such missiles destroyed Ukraine’s Trypilska power station, 40km from Kyiv, though it was in range of the capital’s Patriot air-defence systems.
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    > So far, Ukraine is ignoring American advice to call off the strikes. “Detective”, an intelligence officer responsible for part of the programme, says he has not received instructions to dial down operations. Yes, there has been a switch away from aiming at oil infrastructure in the past week, but it is probably temporary. “Our targets change day to day. We keep the Russians on their toes.”
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    > One long-range-drone producer claims that not every American representative agrees with its policy. His contacts “winked” while they delivered warnings. “They’re privately telling us to keep going.” The producer predicted an expansion of Ukraine’s drone programme in the months to come. “Russia is scorching Ukrainian earth. It’s time we did the same to European Russia.”■

  10. I feel like behind the scenes there is no way the US actually is telling them this

    Got to be a public de escalation policy or something

  11. good. i feel like instead of telling Ukriane to end drone operations, they should be helping them defeat the aggressor that is Russia.

  12. Ukraine has every right to carry out drone ops in ruzzia. Perhaps the ruzzians shouldn’t have invaded a sovereign country in the first place.

  13. The likelihood is that the US is very much supporting operations inside Russia, publicly they can’t say they are to stop things boiling over, but also for domestic reasons aka oil prices. That’s politics for you and the US is very good at being duplicitous and operating with lots of plausible deniability.

    Even the Russians are aware that the US is supporting attacks in Russia, but even for them it is convenient for the domestic audience that it is not publicly acknowledged by either side. Otherwise their hand will be forced to escalate the situation.

    Large facets of international relations and politics is about saving face.

  15. They should not listen to the US, US is not that country that gets attacked daily for over 2 years now 🤬

  16. It’s not like they have aid coming their way…wtf are you expecting them to do, exactly?

  17. If russia stops bombing ukraine, ukraine stops bombing russia. Quite easy

  18. Unless the US can give help to Ukraine, Ukraine should raze Russia

  20. Very hypocritical of the US. It is not like Ukrainian is hitting civilian targets. They are fighting a war behemoth pretty much on their own with their supplies completely dependant on the sentiment of other countries. What else are they supposed to do but hit strategic targets to cripple the Russian war machine?!

  21. Like Kuleba said, if the US were to say: look, were going to give you the 60b package, but please stop doing those operations, one could talk about that. But there is no package, no deal. It’s just “hey, stop that”. There is nothing to talk about.

    It’s not like Ukraine has much of a choice.

  24. When the US restarts their military aid again they may be able to request Ukraine to satisfy particular conditions.

    Currently the US hasn’t supplied anything for months, so they are in no position to have demands.

  26. Good, destroy all oil refineries, I moved so I don’t need my car that much.

  27. I would be thinking about planning to table it at the next Rada session, just after summer holiday.

  29. Ukraine is saying ether give us the means to fight the war your way or leave us alone so we can fight it our way, sounds fair tbh.

  30. Are there any actual sources who from US is warninhg Ukraine? Or is this another paid article to increase the devide between the US and the rest of the world?

  31. Instead of sending out warnings they should send support, hypocritical cunts

  32. If only americans had more iq than a mushroom, at least we would avoid Trump.

  33. Not sure why the US would say not to use drones, they probably saved so many lives by now

  34. Russia bombing Ukraine – bad.
    Ukraine bombing Russia – good.
    Go on and downvote me, hypocritical bastards.

  35. If you dont provide the means to fight the war, you dont get a say on how the war is fought

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