Germany unlikely to grant Russian draft dodgers asylum
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-increasingly-unlikely-to-grant-russian-draft-dodgers-asylum/a-68863537
by Majano57
Germany unlikely to grant Russian draft dodgers asylum
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-increasingly-unlikely-to-grant-russian-draft-dodgers-asylum/a-68863537
by Majano57
32 comments
may i ask why , because under EU law and international law they should
like the way if ukrainian draft dodgers would be granted asylum
EU law and international law shouldn’t play favorites
Well fuck me they grant everyone else under sun asylum regardless of their situation. May as well include Russians too. The Russians could also just lie and say they’re Ukrainian. Nobody checks in Ireland anyway.
“Yes to ISIS rapists and terrorists no to Russian liberals!”
i think it would be a smart move to grant them asylum.. this would incentivise people to dodge the draft, knowing that they will have easy asilum in western Europe, and this will mean russia will have an ever harder time to find soldiers for their invasion
We want to incentivise draft dodging in russia, not punish it
Well, more soldiers for the Russian army then
Every Russian within the EU and outside of Russia is a Russian who will not be part of Russia’s meatgrinder. These people should be allowed to move to Germany. Speaking from a purely pragmatic viewpoint, this will allow the EU to bleed Russia of it’s human resources dry.
“Germany does not want to reward Russians for thwarting their countries war efforts”.
Good… The worst Russians are the ones living the good life in western europe while deepthroating Putin
Odd decision. I don’t understand it.
That’s so stupid, it won’t prevent russian assets infiltrating germany, the east is just going to elect them into state governments.
yeah so they can go back to war and fight ukraine. real good move germany, smartest german policy ever.
dont come with the spy bs everyone has spies you cant prevent that, most of these people arent spies and they just dont want to fight this war. not granting them asylum is basically sending them straight to battle.
I do prefer Russian draft dodgers over Syrian islamists or corrupt Afghan ex-government officials (who just ran away from the Taliban).
**However,** I still don’t want more Russians in Western Europe. They are obnoxious, entitled, and should go back to Russia and overthrow the Putin regime instead of putting more pressure on our housing markets. If millions of Russians had the balls to protest, then Putin’s regime would crumble.
Russian here.
The EU measures against Russia have been…mind-blowing, to put it mildly.
Grafting Russian draft dodgers asylum? No, better make sure they stay in Russia, get conscripted and kill more Ukrainians.
Removing Russia form SWIFT. Wonderful. Now all the regular people who would move the money out of Russia (and consequentially drain the Russian economy of financial resources) keep their money inside the country.
Giving Ukraine Taurus missiles? Nah, they’ll do fine without it.
It’s almost as if they want Russia to win.
Just throw your passport away and claim you are Syrian and you’re good to go. Works for thousands every month.
[Even works if you are a German ex soldier](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/german-police-detain-fake-asylum-seeker-soldier-1.3063668)
>The news flash had weary familiarity: German police arrest 28-year-old Syrian refugee suspected of planning a terrorist attack.
>When questioned, however, it emerged the man was neither Syrian nor a refugee, but a Bavarian soldier who filed a successful asylum application and, since January, has been collecting welfare payments under his made-up identity.
>The bizarre case has left authorities struggling to explain how a German man with no Arabic managed to pass himself off as Syrian and fool his way through a supposedly stringent asylum system.
Well this decision makes perfect sense because there is no draft, I mean there is conscription every year but conscripted soldiers are not involved in the war effort. Also it would mean that Germany needs to take hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people every 6 months, because army is a waste of time and people try to use every possible trick to dodge it.
Most of the new recruits are people who do it for payment and foreign mercenaries, they are making their own decision to fight in a war and don’t need asylum.
I thought everyone was welcomed to Germany. lol
Good! They could easily send spies and sleeper agents. Not worth taking that risk!
The drafting ended long ago as Russia has no shortage of volunteers nowadays. Bribing poor people with high wages seems to do the trick
Yet Germany has no issues importing millions of ME males…
Why tf would you say yes to random ass migrants but not to Russians who will easily assimilate with the culture….
Yes to Erdogan loyalists, no to anti-Putin. Makes sense…
Because Russians getting asylum in the Russian military is better
What happens when europe starts the draft?
Apparently no problem if you are a Syrian draft dodger.
What a paranoid comment section. Everyone if afraid of those dastardly Russian spies infiltrating Europe. The fact that Europe is already a bunch of American puppet states seemingly doesn’t bother them. Quite a few even have the gall to lecture about war and peace while sitting in their comfortable chairs, doing nothing.
Damn, seems to be a nazi gathering in the comments today. Where are the liberal values?
*insert bomber image with red dots all over it*
Well this comment section hurts to read.
“They should just go overthrow the government”, say people who live in democratic society and don’t have to deal with realities of living in a dictatorship
“They’re gonna be FSB agents anyway”, assuming the FSB agents wouldn’t just use documetns of countries like Serbia or Tajikistan or whatever to operate in Europe
“They would be Putin supporters anyway”, which is an insane excuse to use in any case. Like okay, let’s roll with that. The minority who aren’t Putin supporters, they deserve to get screwed over as well then?
The article starts talking about something else entirely anyway (but who on Reddit reads the linked articles):
>German authorities say that men coming to Germany from Russia to avoid being enlisted in the army are not at risk of persecution if they return to Russia.
And everyone is okay with that here? “Oh he deserves it anyway, he’s Russian”, or what? “Are not at risk of persecution”, that is an absolutely insane fucking statement. And top comments are about how not letting Russians in is good, actually. Jesus fucking Christ you people are delusional
Ahh yes, they’ve already ruined their country with mass immigration of Africans and Middle Easterns, now they shall slowly reap their undesired consequence in the name of cultural growth 😂
There is a hypocrisy going on in western refugee-supporters. Grant asylum to African immigrants because a tyrant dictatorship ([e.g. Eritreans claiming asylum in Germany because of the dictator while actually supporting the authoritarian regime](https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/eritreer-in-deutschland-der-lange-arm-der-diktatur-19056010.html)? Yeah, sure come here, while Russians are not welcomed here because they allegedly support all Putins regime
Funny how we are in Portugal forced to take all the illegal immigrants and the refugees, while Germany is now whining about it…
Granting asylum to draft dodgers while suggesting we should start mandatory military service would be a very funny joke.
Bonus points if we forced our own conscripts to build and maintain the infrastructure to support the draft dodging asylum applicants.