I bought an appartement. Three of our windows turn wrong. (First twe pictures)
They have the option to be opened completely or on "kipstand".
The three windows that turn wrong all have another holder in the frame. Could this be fixed easily?
The contracter claims it was done on purpose…

by ChantElBee

6 comments

  1. I’m not sure exactly what is wrong, but those holders unscrew and re-position very easily. On ALU frames pre-drill for the screws, on PVC they might even self-drill. I used a bit of sticky tape on the ‘nub’ to transfer the correct location and adjust accordingly (my window opened fine in winter, not in summer). The old holes I cleaned and filled with the slightest dab of polymer glue.

    Or, you know, make your contractor come over and discuss by them physically operating the windows. Don’t argue over email or phone, they “won’t understand” or the pictures/video will be “not clear enough”, but once they go through the pain of actually getting to the customer you hold the power.
    If it’s a lower wage slave, offer him a drink before demonstrating the problem.

  3. This is probably done on purpose. Architects sometimes make odd decisions like this, I’ve seen it plenty of times before. You need to change the part for another one if I’m not mistaken. I don’t work with this brand so I’m not 100% sure but one part allows the locking nub to only go one direction and the other part allows for it to go both directions as you can see.

  4. Clarification: the window can be opened completely and can be put on “kipstand” the lever is wrongly positioned on three of our windows.
    To open completely you have to turn it vertically.
    To open on “kip” horizontally.

    All of our other windows also have “kipstand” but turn normally. We are the only apartment of all 15 apartments in the building which has this flaw…

  5. Hmmmm, idk.

    If it still works, better to just leave it this way.

  6. I am a professional.
    This is called tilt before turn, and you want turn before tilt. Usually tilt before turn is used with levers with a key lock. That way you need te key to turn open. It is meant for hospitals, schools etc to prevent defenestration.
    It is certainly on purpose and you would need a different scissor on the upside of the opening window and probably also some other pieces too. Without those it’s impossible to change it.
    Also, tilt before turn pieces are usually slightly more expensive than turn before tilt.

    I would keep them as is. They work great and this is not a wrongly assembled thing.

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