House votes to ban TikTok in US unless Chinese owner ByteDance sells to American company

https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktok-ban-passes-house-bytedance-2024-4

43 comments
  1. “sell to an American company that’s going to do the exact same shit we’re accusing you of doing or you’re banned”. So glad to see we’ve got our priorities in order 😒. And they came in on a Saturday to do it? Such hard workers man

  2. Maybe I am crazy, but I would much rather prefer the US take my data than the CCP and I don’t think that should be a controversial take. The amount of people getting their news from tiktok makes that even more of an obvious decision.

  3. What’s funny is that TikTok literally built a server farm in Texas where all US data is stored and monitored by a US company (Oracle) and also gave Oracle access to it’s algorithm to routinely check to see if it’s been compromised in any way (which is a huge risk for TikTok since its algorithm is what makes it so popular and other tech companies really want)

    And ppl still say that isn’t enough even tho that’s more than what Facebook, Twitter ect do for their customers

  4. I’m 62 and I’ll be fucking pissed. I will still vote democrat till death.

  5. Just another congressional grift. Mad they can’t force the algorithm to display the news they want us to see. There is no war there is no genocide.

  6. Do Facebook, Twitter, Google etc next. Oh whats that? This is just xenophobia and capitalism mixed in some gross stew?

  7. You can tell who gets their misinformation from TikTok, who get theirs from Fox News, and who gets theirs from the NYT just by reading the comment section.

  8. Steve Mnuchin fixing to turn it into a right wing propaganda machine.

  9. None of this makes sense because other social media companies routinely sell your data and even if its not directly it will end up in the hands of nations the US purport to want to block such data from.

    If they were serious they would outright ban this company and restrict sale of personal data for social media companies regardless of TOS.

    Its hard to not see this as a gift to friends as the sale is forced.

  10. Genuinely surprised how many people are not ok with this. CCP has no business being involved in Americans lives. There will be another short form video platform to take TikTok’s place

  11. Only our government is allowed to invade privacy lol

  12. To WHICH American company?! I’d rather it be banned than owned by a US company that will use it to further a certain agenda that is just as authoritarian as China.

  13. I wish the media would stop framing this as a “data issue” and more as “a hostile power can control the feeds of what 100 million Americans can see, i.e. where the majority of those Americans get their news”.

    The very issues and geopolitical events that we see, including what comments and discussions we read, are completely controlled by an actor that does not have our best interests at heart. It is extremely dangerous. And so when people compare Meta to this it’s not really comparable at all. Meta wants profit above all else, and will fight the US government to protect its users because its users are its IP. Tiktok cannot fight the CCP. And so what will happen – and is happening now – is that everybody on Tiktok will see what the CCP wants them to see – which are arguments against banning Tiktok, how the US is no better, etc.

    For those on Tiktok, I want you to look at hot-button issues to China – Ukraine and Taiwan – and observe which posts are successful and which are not. Look at what comments are listed on the top in the comment section, which are less liked than others but strangely appear first. You will notice clear sides that align with China’s geopolitical objectives.

    With Tiktok, the CCP could create division on a scale never seen before and they are doing it as we speak. For those wary of the US gov – imagine what the US could and would do if 100 million Chinese users could use one of our platforms, what propaganda the CIA would push, because foreign citizens have virtually no rights to both the CCP and the USgov. Imagine how the CIA would convince millions of Chinese to essentially stop supporting the CCP or to overthrow it, and now imagine what would happen if someday we went to war.

    It is terrifying and the fact that nobody can see it makes me believe that they have already succeeded into convincing millions of Americans that our elected government is worse than the CCP’s autocracy.

  14. I’m sorry? What vile fuckery is this? This is just straight up thuggery. These cretins criticize the PRC and cite them as the reason for this, and they do this? This is straight out of the CPC playbook.

  15. Ignore the whataboutisms in this thread and you’re left with about 3 rational comments.

  16. I use tictok to watch pretty girls in short skirts dance.

    The fact that theyre Asian or american bothers me not. I’m a simple man.

    🤣

  17. Nobody can steal and sell your data unless its us who is stealing and selling your data. ‘Murica.

  18. I’d be curious if all this attention on Tik Tok was due at least in part by the amount of media that’s been coming out of Gaza. To be fair if Tik Tok wasn’t around there would be little news outside of the Israel approved coverage. I would go further to say that the app has been the sole media source that shows the horrific measures Israel and the IDF is taking against innocent civilians.

    I’d also like to see if there was a correlation between house members who approved of this ban and whether they got AIPAC donations.

  19. Wow. If I were China, I’d be telling the USA to suck a hot dog.

  20. wtf. This country has the most screwed up priorities I have ever seen.

  21. I find the requirement to sell to an *American* company especially dumb. Like, I understand wanting ByteDance to sell it, but what, it can’t be to a company in a NATO country, it *has* to be American?

  22. If only there were antitrust and anti-data collecting laws that could be implemented to assuage the govt’s fears… if only the US were willing to abide by them too

  23. To a right wing company who will use it to spread bullshit and use it against LGBQT people

  24. I swear I’m having deja-vu, didn’t they do this like a month ago??

  25. So despite the fact it receives money from multiple US backed companies as well as Chinese ones, is incorporated in Cayman Islands that isn’t enough? The worst fact is how they bundled that with crap they knew WOULD pass.

  26. Seems un- American to force them to sell and I don’t Trust the House.

  27. Im not a fan of China or TikTok but is this normal? Banning a business/company unless they sell it to you?

    It feels icky to me.

  28. I don’t think you can just legislate steeling a company.

    There was something about a takings clause, wasn’t there.

    In any case the whole time they were crying about the children and about privacy and now they are basically saying that spying on US children is okay as long as it is done by an US owned company that then sells the data to China.

  29. I mean, whatever. I don’t use TikTok and don’t care either way, but how about they ban Chinese and foreign investors from purchasing real estate in the US? Seems like it’s a much bigger problem than TikTok

  30. Seems like the gov’t tries to ban TikTok every other month.

  31. Perhaps the government should do something to protect the American people from all the companies collecting our data. Not just the Chinese ones.

  32. This is a bad decision. Pass laws universally that protects consumers data, dont ban one company.

    This should be illegal. Tik Tok is terrible but singling out one company thats doing things all tech companies are doing is unAmerican

  33. If the USA had the kind of control over it’s corporations that China has over theirs other countries would be banning American companies too.

    We’ve had multiple western tech companies tell their governments to fuck right off when asking for data. Do you think a Chinese company will or even can do the same?

  34. Can’t have all that pesky Gaza content leaking into your carefully manicured media landscape!!

  35. “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

    Even if you hate TikTok and its impact on the younger generation, this is just downright authoritarian. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

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