It’s shocking to me that virginity testing hadn’t been banned yet.
oh no! How are we going to safeguard the purity of our women?
So I’m gonna point out this shit is actually a problem, and everyone is going to dislike my post and I’m gonna get -100 karma watch.
The UK has a fucked attitude on this approach. The actual problem here isn’t specifically the surgeries but rather subcommunities that have rancid attitudes to women, I say this as a liberal SJW. Banning these sugeries poses problems because it’s not specifically banning these surgeries on kids it’s just wholesale banning them and therefore removing the choice of adults without correcting any of the actual issue.
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This is actively reducing the freedom of choice a woman has over her own body while it seems bizzare to get a surgery that dose such a thing to me, It’s ultimately her own buisness if she wants her “hymen restored” whatever. I know your gonna compare this to FGM but again if your dealing with pre-pubescent kids sure, they cannot consent to such a surgery, But if a full grown woman wants a cliteroectomy that’s like fucking weird to me but again her decision to make.
This is part of a largely cultural trend that starts with banning FGM (Again understandable best of intentions) but ultimately ends with women not begin able to consent to any proceedure done to themselves because it’s considered squicky by an ultimately mysogynistic socioty that considers a woman undeserving of her own repoductive systems.
What about girls who want their labias and nipples peirced? Are they not mutilating their genitals for cultural reasons? What about guys who want circumcisions in adulthood? It’s fundimentally the same arguement.
Even if we suppose it was the choice of the woman to get this done, the choice is made in order to comply with certain expectations within their community. The only way to change those attitudes is to ban the practices that they lead to.
Their body their choice surely. Why can’t someone get this done if they choose to.
I fully agree with the banning of virginity testing (although I do hope that the law is not so clumsily formulated as to prevent checks regarding sexual violence, child abuse, etc.).
But as for hymen repair surgery, I find this ban rather short-sighted. In the Maghreb, adult women are chosing to have hymen repair surgery in order to save themselves from violence by their family. And no doubt the same holds true for many women having this procedure done in the UK.
They should have every right to have premarital sex, **and** they should have every right to protect themselves from violence. And so they should have the right to have this procdure in a safe, professional environment.
Not having the option of hymen repair surgery will put many women at risk, in some cases at risk of death. At the very least the removal of this option will be an additional pressure on women and might indirectly limit their freedom of choice by making the decision to have premarital sex much harder on them. This ban is not empowering these women, it limits their autonomy over their own body and puts them at risk at the same time.
In order to protect my virginity I only allowed anal sex before marriage. Now we’re married my wife thinks I’m a super husband.
Goes to show how fucked this country is that this even has to be outlawed
A lot of voices will celebrate this but I don’t think this is right.
As far as I care both are utterly useless and pointless.
But were simply yet again legislating what women can do with their bodies. Its similar logic which is used to justify tightening abortion legislation in the US.
I can see little value in making either of these illegal for adult women under all circumstances.
Violence is not complex. It’s violence. And writing it off as too complex is detracting from the seriousness of it.
What community in this country values virginity or purity? The indigenous one? Or another one?
“Virginity testing” is Borat-tier science anyway
A torn hymen doesn’t mean the girl’s had sex.
Great news. If you lose your virginity because you “made a mistake”, this isn’t something you should be able to try to hide with hymen repair.
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It’s shocking to me that virginity testing hadn’t been banned yet.
oh no! How are we going to safeguard the purity of our women?
So I’m gonna point out this shit is actually a problem, and everyone is going to dislike my post and I’m gonna get -100 karma watch.
The UK has a fucked attitude on this approach. The actual problem here isn’t specifically the surgeries but rather subcommunities that have rancid attitudes to women, I say this as a liberal SJW. Banning these sugeries poses problems because it’s not specifically banning these surgeries on kids it’s just wholesale banning them and therefore removing the choice of adults without correcting any of the actual issue.
​
This is actively reducing the freedom of choice a woman has over her own body while it seems bizzare to get a surgery that dose such a thing to me, It’s ultimately her own buisness if she wants her “hymen restored” whatever. I know your gonna compare this to FGM but again if your dealing with pre-pubescent kids sure, they cannot consent to such a surgery, But if a full grown woman wants a cliteroectomy that’s like fucking weird to me but again her decision to make.
This is part of a largely cultural trend that starts with banning FGM (Again understandable best of intentions) but ultimately ends with women not begin able to consent to any proceedure done to themselves because it’s considered squicky by an ultimately mysogynistic socioty that considers a woman undeserving of her own repoductive systems.
What about girls who want their labias and nipples peirced? Are they not mutilating their genitals for cultural reasons? What about guys who want circumcisions in adulthood? It’s fundimentally the same arguement.
Even if we suppose it was the choice of the woman to get this done, the choice is made in order to comply with certain expectations within their community. The only way to change those attitudes is to ban the practices that they lead to.
Their body their choice surely. Why can’t someone get this done if they choose to.
I fully agree with the banning of virginity testing (although I do hope that the law is not so clumsily formulated as to prevent checks regarding sexual violence, child abuse, etc.).
But as for hymen repair surgery, I find this ban rather short-sighted. In the Maghreb, adult women are chosing to have hymen repair surgery in order to save themselves from violence by their family. And no doubt the same holds true for many women having this procedure done in the UK.
They should have every right to have premarital sex, **and** they should have every right to protect themselves from violence. And so they should have the right to have this procdure in a safe, professional environment.
Not having the option of hymen repair surgery will put many women at risk, in some cases at risk of death. At the very least the removal of this option will be an additional pressure on women and might indirectly limit their freedom of choice by making the decision to have premarital sex much harder on them. This ban is not empowering these women, it limits their autonomy over their own body and puts them at risk at the same time.
In order to protect my virginity I only allowed anal sex before marriage. Now we’re married my wife thinks I’m a super husband.
Goes to show how fucked this country is that this even has to be outlawed
A lot of voices will celebrate this but I don’t think this is right.
As far as I care both are utterly useless and pointless.
But were simply yet again legislating what women can do with their bodies. Its similar logic which is used to justify tightening abortion legislation in the US.
I can see little value in making either of these illegal for adult women under all circumstances.
Violence is not complex. It’s violence. And writing it off as too complex is detracting from the seriousness of it.
What community in this country values virginity or purity? The indigenous one? Or another one?
“Virginity testing” is Borat-tier science anyway
A torn hymen doesn’t mean the girl’s had sex.
Great news. If you lose your virginity because you “made a mistake”, this isn’t something you should be able to try to hide with hymen repair.