* The nature of the work not allowing for the work to be done remotely
* Cannot organise work among existing staff
* Potential impact on quality
* Potential negative impact on performance
* Planned structural changes
* Burden of additional costs, taking into account the financial and other costs entailed and the financial resources of the employer’s business
* Concerns re the protection of business confidentiality or intellectual property rights
* Concerns re the suitability of the proposed workspaces on health and safety grounds
* Concerns re the suitability of the proposed workspaces on data protection grounds
* Concerns re the internet connectivity of proposed remote working location
* Inordinate distance between the proposed location and on-site location
* If the proposed remote working arrangement conflicts with the of applicable collective agreement
On going or recently concluded formal disciplinary processes
So basically no one can work from home if the company just doesn’t want you to lmao
So basically whatever they want
So vague! Any employer could call on those reasons and basically deny anyone work from home.
100% expect my employer to reserve WFH for senior/higher level staff but us plebs got to keep the office seats warm for “reasons”
Nice one Leo. TalkIng out your arse yesterday as usual. Ball totally in the employer court there. Didn’t really expect anything else though.
If your employer refuses outright then start looking elsewhere. Labour market is tight now for many sectors and skills so when they then realise that they’ll have to waste time and money on resourcing again on top of being short-staffed then employer attitudes might change. Workers are in demand and should realise the power they have. Plenty of other places will start to offer better terms if it means they can keep the people they have and get in a few more
>Mr Varadkar said the Government cannot interfere in contracts between employers and employees.
He’s an awful snake.
What does he think labour law is?
So basically this legislation does nothing except possibly preventing an employer from straight-up sacking a newer employee who doesn’t have unfair dismissal protection yet just for daring to ask if they can work remotely?
Genuinely feel like the last 2 years we’ve been told by the govt how they understand the common worker , they suppor wfh but the legislation appears to side so much with employers right to say no. The WRC thing is there but sure who really is going to escalate to that point with their employer and not have some aspect of an negative effect on their employment going forward…
This smacks like the ticket touting being made illegal. On the face of it “it’s well done government” but underneath it all the legislation is a cop out.
Impact on productivity- I can take gazillion coffee breaks while in the office .
IMO the government are going about this the wrong way. Companies won’t change unless it benefits them.
Why not just give tax breaks or other benefits to companies who can prove that they have allocated their employees as 75%+ remote work/hybrid? The company can accept applications for these role changes and allocate them as per employee performance/trustworthiness/applicability/applied justifications
Potential government benefits:
* Improve carbon targets
* Less cars on the road
* Quieter public transport
* More people will buy houses outside of the capital (helping housing in cities)
* Be seen as a progressive country
* Improved mental health for employees due to better work/life balance
The request to WFH is just a political stunt and will have very little uptake by employers.
It’s handy they’ve shared this list. Now employers can copy and paste this as they reject the request
13 Reasons Why really scraping the barrel at this stage
That’s a lengthy way to say “back to the salt mines peasants” … 😂
Fuckin’ sellout.
So Leo’s big ‘Right to Request’ bill is just a load of bolloxology, like I figured. Great looking out for the workers !
If you’ve been able to successfully work from home for the last two years, and wish to continue doing do, a company should honour that request. Employee satisfaction will produce better productivity than forcing someone to come into the office.
Thankfully my company made it company policy in April of 2020 to allow remote working, and remote hiring.
“This can include concerns over internet activity in an area and they can refuse requests on the grounds that a person’s home is too far away from their workplace.”
Surely the whole fucking point of it is to allow those with unnecessary long commutes to still contribute to their workplace.
Ireland will also see the “great wave of resignation as America”. Well these conditions were true since pandemic and companies made it work.
People will join the companies who offer remote work now.
This is basically giving employers a list of excuses to not have to let people work from home while making it APPEAR to employees like they’re making an effort to help them out…
Fuck you Leo and fuck your friends who own the offices that are empty you massive pack of cunts.
While these are all extremely vague, how can a company where someone who has been WFH for the past 22 months use any of these reasons to force people back.
If you have done something for 22 months how can you not do it for 23 or 24….
So work life balance was just more hokum just to make covid restrictions more palatable for us plebs.
Now its back to work peasants.
This is laughable. I don’t see the point in this legislation at all now. Seems like politicking more than anything. Christ I fucking hate these cunts.
So basically any reason is permissible. That Thatcherite fuckshite really wants to be able to tell IBEC that he got the peasants back in the cage.
I don’t have a work from home option as my role is in person, I work with people who have intellectual disabilities so it’s not possible, I love my job, I personally was never suited to a 9-5. I was full time in my job for 10 years & now I work part time shift work. I’ve got 2 young kids so I’m home a lot for them.
From reading the above, I’d imagine if an employee gets refused the option to work from home & they appeal it, bringing in an independent reviewer- I’m fairly sure they’re gonna be flagged for being difficult & probably be eventually fired over a minor issue soon afterwards.
Personally I feel that the times we are currently in could be a massive opportunity to overhaul the entire work/life balance. It could go towards solving the housing crisis too because there won’t be as many people trying to live in the same over populated cities. Traffic could ease around the country, thus providing climate benefits. Business’s in towns & villages will benefit as residents wont have to leave small towns or rural areas for work so they will spend more in their local community for lunches, coffees etc.
If it’s done properly this could be massively successful. Reward employees who are excelling performance wise while working from hone. Keep tabs/ offer more training, then warnings, then fire those those who aren’t. The majority of folks will be happier in their work situation so will work better as a result. People who aren’t preforming or taking the piss will stand out. I understand Wfh is not suited to all so companies could offer the option to work in an office/ hub that’s local to the employee if needed.
Companies could offer options for new staff members to shadow other long serving staff member on a rotation basis to gain experience & knowledge. It’s completely do-able for some companies. It also broadens the net for business’s to gain staff who might have the skills needed but wouldn’t usually apply for a certain role due to the distance from home.
Companies could have a monthly in person staff meeting with an agenda for everyone to meet in person. Maybe a lunch/ coffee afterwards. They would lose the massive overheads of renting offices too.
I suppose I’m thinking out loud but I’m at a loss to see how many companies could turn down this opportunity, although I’m sure there will be many who will. Even though it wouldn’t even effect me, I still think It’s a shame! It could improve the moral & the overall happiness of the country!
It would take back the way corporations & control the general population & give choice back to the people. It might sound like a pipe-dream but I personally believe this is the biggest opportunity to overhaul the way 9-5 office jobs enslave workers.
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* The nature of the work not allowing for the work to be done remotely
* Cannot organise work among existing staff
* Potential impact on quality
* Potential negative impact on performance
* Planned structural changes
* Burden of additional costs, taking into account the financial and other costs entailed and the financial resources of the employer’s business
* Concerns re the protection of business confidentiality or intellectual property rights
* Concerns re the suitability of the proposed workspaces on health and safety grounds
* Concerns re the suitability of the proposed workspaces on data protection grounds
* Concerns re the internet connectivity of proposed remote working location
* Inordinate distance between the proposed location and on-site location
* If the proposed remote working arrangement conflicts with the of applicable collective agreement
On going or recently concluded formal disciplinary processes
So basically no one can work from home if the company just doesn’t want you to lmao
So basically whatever they want
So vague! Any employer could call on those reasons and basically deny anyone work from home.
100% expect my employer to reserve WFH for senior/higher level staff but us plebs got to keep the office seats warm for “reasons”
Nice one Leo. TalkIng out your arse yesterday as usual. Ball totally in the employer court there. Didn’t really expect anything else though.
If your employer refuses outright then start looking elsewhere. Labour market is tight now for many sectors and skills so when they then realise that they’ll have to waste time and money on resourcing again on top of being short-staffed then employer attitudes might change. Workers are in demand and should realise the power they have. Plenty of other places will start to offer better terms if it means they can keep the people they have and get in a few more
>Mr Varadkar said the Government cannot interfere in contracts between employers and employees.
He’s an awful snake.
What does he think labour law is?
So basically this legislation does nothing except possibly preventing an employer from straight-up sacking a newer employee who doesn’t have unfair dismissal protection yet just for daring to ask if they can work remotely?
Genuinely feel like the last 2 years we’ve been told by the govt how they understand the common worker , they suppor wfh but the legislation appears to side so much with employers right to say no. The WRC thing is there but sure who really is going to escalate to that point with their employer and not have some aspect of an negative effect on their employment going forward…
This smacks like the ticket touting being made illegal. On the face of it “it’s well done government” but underneath it all the legislation is a cop out.
Impact on productivity- I can take gazillion coffee breaks while in the office .
IMO the government are going about this the wrong way. Companies won’t change unless it benefits them.
Why not just give tax breaks or other benefits to companies who can prove that they have allocated their employees as 75%+ remote work/hybrid? The company can accept applications for these role changes and allocate them as per employee performance/trustworthiness/applicability/applied justifications
Potential government benefits:
* Improve carbon targets
* Less cars on the road
* Quieter public transport
* More people will buy houses outside of the capital (helping housing in cities)
* Be seen as a progressive country
* Improved mental health for employees due to better work/life balance
The request to WFH is just a political stunt and will have very little uptake by employers.
It’s handy they’ve shared this list. Now employers can copy and paste this as they reject the request
13 Reasons Why really scraping the barrel at this stage
That’s a lengthy way to say “back to the salt mines peasants” … 😂
Fuckin’ sellout.
So Leo’s big ‘Right to Request’ bill is just a load of bolloxology, like I figured. Great looking out for the workers !
If you’ve been able to successfully work from home for the last two years, and wish to continue doing do, a company should honour that request. Employee satisfaction will produce better productivity than forcing someone to come into the office.
Thankfully my company made it company policy in April of 2020 to allow remote working, and remote hiring.
“This can include concerns over internet activity in an area and they can refuse requests on the grounds that a person’s home is too far away from their workplace.”
Surely the whole fucking point of it is to allow those with unnecessary long commutes to still contribute to their workplace.
Ireland will also see the “great wave of resignation as America”. Well these conditions were true since pandemic and companies made it work.
People will join the companies who offer remote work now.
This is basically giving employers a list of excuses to not have to let people work from home while making it APPEAR to employees like they’re making an effort to help them out…
Fuck you Leo and fuck your friends who own the offices that are empty you massive pack of cunts.
While these are all extremely vague, how can a company where someone who has been WFH for the past 22 months use any of these reasons to force people back.
If you have done something for 22 months how can you not do it for 23 or 24….
So work life balance was just more hokum just to make covid restrictions more palatable for us plebs.
Now its back to work peasants.
This is laughable. I don’t see the point in this legislation at all now. Seems like politicking more than anything. Christ I fucking hate these cunts.
So basically any reason is permissible. That Thatcherite fuckshite really wants to be able to tell IBEC that he got the peasants back in the cage.
I don’t have a work from home option as my role is in person, I work with people who have intellectual disabilities so it’s not possible, I love my job, I personally was never suited to a 9-5. I was full time in my job for 10 years & now I work part time shift work. I’ve got 2 young kids so I’m home a lot for them.
From reading the above, I’d imagine if an employee gets refused the option to work from home & they appeal it, bringing in an independent reviewer- I’m fairly sure they’re gonna be flagged for being difficult & probably be eventually fired over a minor issue soon afterwards.
Personally I feel that the times we are currently in could be a massive opportunity to overhaul the entire work/life balance. It could go towards solving the housing crisis too because there won’t be as many people trying to live in the same over populated cities. Traffic could ease around the country, thus providing climate benefits. Business’s in towns & villages will benefit as residents wont have to leave small towns or rural areas for work so they will spend more in their local community for lunches, coffees etc.
If it’s done properly this could be massively successful. Reward employees who are excelling performance wise while working from hone. Keep tabs/ offer more training, then warnings, then fire those those who aren’t. The majority of folks will be happier in their work situation so will work better as a result. People who aren’t preforming or taking the piss will stand out. I understand Wfh is not suited to all so companies could offer the option to work in an office/ hub that’s local to the employee if needed.
Companies could offer options for new staff members to shadow other long serving staff member on a rotation basis to gain experience & knowledge. It’s completely do-able for some companies. It also broadens the net for business’s to gain staff who might have the skills needed but wouldn’t usually apply for a certain role due to the distance from home.
Companies could have a monthly in person staff meeting with an agenda for everyone to meet in person. Maybe a lunch/ coffee afterwards. They would lose the massive overheads of renting offices too.
I suppose I’m thinking out loud but I’m at a loss to see how many companies could turn down this opportunity, although I’m sure there will be many who will. Even though it wouldn’t even effect me, I still think It’s a shame! It could improve the moral & the overall happiness of the country!
It would take back the way corporations & control the general population & give choice back to the people. It might sound like a pipe-dream but I personally believe this is the biggest opportunity to overhaul the way 9-5 office jobs enslave workers.