“Real embarrassment”: Trump lawyer apologizes after judge called him out for “misleading” jury
https://www.salon.com/2024/04/26/real-embarrassment-lawyer-apologizes-after-called-him-out-for-misleading-jury/
“Real embarrassment”: Trump lawyer apologizes after judge called him out for “misleading” jury
https://www.salon.com/2024/04/26/real-embarrassment-lawyer-apologizes-after-called-him-out-for-misleading-jury/
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Trump and his people lying and misleading. Another day that ends with “y.” SMH.
Things not going well for Trump attorneys. Bet they’re wishing they turned down the job. Trump must be a nightmare to represent as his is totally fixated with his viewpoint (on everything.)
You would think effectively lying to the jury about the existence of evidence (the document saying something it does not) would be a huge fucking deal.
“Sir this is a chinese takeout menu”
The other thing about this is that a couple of the jurors are attorneys. If the rest of the jurors look to them for some kind of ‘expert opinion’, I bet this move gets a replay.
Slightly unclear – did he apologize to the jury, or just the judge?
Only the best people
>”I wanted to apologize and move on from that,” Bove said Friday.
Yeah, I lied to the jury, we’re all moving on.
Trump’s attorneys turning this trial into a Hanover Fiste moment?
Serious question from someone whose understanding of the law comes from obsessively watching all the Laws & Orders: If a witness testifies A, and the attorney hands the witness a bogus piece of paper suggesting that the witness refresh his memory that in fact it was B, why is that not supboerning perjury? (Apologies! I do not watch L&O with the subtitles on, so I don’t know how to spell the word!)
and just like that the list of lawyers that have not been paid y the Trump family just grew by 1.
In six weeks: *This verdict is written on a cocktail napkin. And it* still *says guilty.*
“The defense, Mr. Bove, Trump’s lawyer, really got off to a strong start with their cross-examination,” Eisen said. “But then, they made a mistake.”
That’s what we’re calling a mistake? Deliberately misleading a jury?
Here me out…
Is it possible this is another delay strategy? Trump’s lawyer being bad enough that he can argue ineffective counsel on appeal to overturn the verdict?
Is having represented Trump the leading cause of lawyers being disbarred or sanctioned?
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The take away here is that Trump’s defense team is willing to mislead the jury – which Merchan needs to watch carefully and call out when they do it again .
“If the glove don’t fit then you must.. oh shit it does fit.”
Both sides are not the same.
So they tried for a Perry Mason-esque moment, despite that kind of thing almost never happening in real life jurisprudence, and fell flat on their face. Nice.
Oh wow. The prosecution just clarified ANOTHER instance where the defense was trying to trip up Pecker. From CNN update:
>Steinglass is now shifting to Pecker’s 2018 FBI interview, where Pecker earlier disputed the FBI notes saying that Trump didn’t thank him during a January 2017 meeting.
>He asked Pecker about a subsequent interview with the FBI one week after the meeting Bove highlighted.
>Steinglass is quoting from notes from that meeting that say, “At that time Trump told Pecker in sum and susbstance that he, Trump, wanted to thank him, Pecker, for handling the Karen and doorman stories because they would have been very damaging to him.”
>The notes from that interview confirm that Pecker told the FBI that when he visited Trump at Trump Tower in January 2017, Trump thanked Pecker for handling the doorman and McDougal stories.
>Steinglass asked Pecker if he told the FBI that Trump thanked him.
>”Yes I did,” Pecker testified.
So now the jury has seen the defense attorney hand Pecker a stack of unrelated papers… and now they’ve seen that the defense attorney was trying to make a big deal about the FBI records not indicating he told them trump thanked him *when FBI notes from a meeting the following week DO have the notes that the FBI thanked him…*
I can’t imagine a juror sitting there thinking that the defense was arguing about the omission of the “thank you” in the notes in good faith when they would have known full well that he did tell them about the thank you a week later…
This is not a good day for the defense’s credibility with the jury.
I’m so glad Judge Merchan is on his game.
How many times does a lwaywe get to mislead a jury and violate court rules before they do something about it?
A blank document? A real Perry Mason moment.
Par for the course. Say shit in front of the jury to skew them.
Bove knew what he was doing.
Trump has lots of favorable posts his MAGAssistant prints for him off the internets so yeah, pieces of paper are things(!)
I thought Alina Habba got into trouble for not entering items into evidence. Was this “reminder” slip of paper entered into evidence?
> “I wanted to apologize and move on from that,” Bove said Friday.
I bet you do want to move on from that! Fucking clown.
Wait so, was the paper literally blank? I’m dying to know.
huh. thats funny.
when poor people lie, we’re liars.
when the elite and media lie, theyre mISLeAdInG
such soft language for a stark raving liar
Idk why he’d waste the energy trying to mislead the jury. The judge could order the jury to find dickhead guilty and I bet there’d *still* be a MAGA assole or GOP congressman or supreme court judge to save him.
This dude must have blackmail on the fucking almighty being to get as much cover as he does.
When there really isn’t a good legal or factual defense, you throw shit against the wall, stretching this, bullshitting that, all with the hope something positively sticks that helps or creates doubt, rises to the level of a mistrial, or creates some sort of wedge or ground for appeal.
When will every lawyer in America learn not to represent defendant Trump? It’s a career-ending move, demonstrably
Tricky bastards. The judge and prosecution has to keep a close eye in these shyster’s.
The grand plan of a mistrial due to inadequate counsel?
What?
You can’t just hand a witness a document on the witness stand. You have to lay foundation for the document, why it’s relevant, how it’s credible, and enter it into evidence. Then you ask questions about it
How did it even get past handing the document to him?
this whole fucking ordeal is a goddamn embarrassment.
Intentional mistrial?
>When Bove sought to defend himself, Merchan cut him off. “Mr. Bove, are you missing my point?”
Yeaouch!
Not just misleading the jury. INTENTIONALLY misleading the jury.
Trump doesn’t need a lawyer who can win. He needs one who can delay, delay, delay until the Supreme Court can help him steal the next election.
Are they trying to be bad lawyers? Are they setting him up for an inadequate representation defense on appeal?
I am confused. How was this not caught before it happened. In NY state, any document can be used to refresh recollection without being admitted into evidence, which appears to be the use here. That is, Pecker would have been prompted on cross to reiterate his prior testimony about who was and wasnt at the meeting, then shown the document, then asked if the document refreshes his recollection. Did the defense not have to show the document to the prosecution and court first before presenting it to the witness? Or was it shown to the witness unvetted and then a loaded question without a basis was asked? Did the defense think that no one would ask to see the document? So now, a document that the jury can physically see is being waived around and the jury has no idea what is or is not in the document and can only speculate about its contents, will now be told that the defense questions with loaded implications were not supported by evidence? Because it’s not in evidence, the only representation of its content was built into the defenses misleading question and they will now apologize for lying to the jury? Woosh.