20 years ago all the kids (myself included) were told you had to go to college/ University if you wanted to make something of yourself – that apprenticeships were only for the thickos.
How little did we know….
Yes, for plumbers and electritions and then they jet off to America/Oz/Canada.
and then they fly to Australia.
The reputation problem which the trades have is self-inflicted, there isn’t a single sector of the economy where people are so ready to cheat, lie, dick over and turn up late
I was in secondary school 2004-2009 and they pushed college on us constantly and told us to stay away from apprenticeships. Wankers.
My son is going into the trades, Aircraft Maintenance. He took over my workshop and this morning he’ll be doing the front brakes and discs on the car.
its the same with Further Education an element of snobbery towards them courses
For anyone interested, check out the ESB apprenticeships also. They sound great.
Wish I did a proper apprenticeship rather than a music tech degree. Life wouldn’t have been so much of a battle
Great news that the return to sanity continues to gather pace. The media driven obsessions of the Celtic Tiger era have caused immense damage to the country.
We need more diverse apprenticeships that cover niche industries within the general trades.
There’s a Broadcast Skills course in the ETB in Tralee that is probably one of the best equipped and taught media training course in the country. If you want to work in film, TV or video and actually learn to use all kinds of equipment, you’d be better off spending a year of your life there than doing a degree.
There are also tech apprenticeships where you can spend 18-24 months doing a blend of learning and working and end up working full time in good tech jobs with industry certs under your belt. A good option if you don’t think you can manage a full computer science degree.
If you go to college with a specific profession in mind then I still think it rings true you will make more money this way.
If you go to college to do a silly degree and fuck about then you are better to do a trade.
This site is hilarious.
Everybody went to college because college jobs were paying well but because the market got saturated the job didn’t have to pay as much to attract workers.
Nobody was a carpenter so carpenters started getting paid well when it was booming to attract workers.
I wish we all had of been carpenters.
I bet none of you would touch a broken waste pipe or climb a roof in the winter, or jump under a cold burst water pipe to get a valve on it and then work for the rest of the day soaked but you all think that if you say you wish you had of done it you will get more kids to do first year on a site for 200 euro a week.
People keep trying to give me their idiot sons to he apprentices like its some sort of remedial school, will ye take Sean with you for an apprenticeship he failed his leaving and has a crayon stuck up his nose, he’s not cut out for accountancy but I’m sure he can do whatever you do because you wear snickers trousers and talk a bit common.
There’s a reason I get paid what I do. If anybody could do it my wages would be declining every year just like the college jobs are.
.
There will be a recession sooner or later and most of the trades will go on the welfare, the banks won’t be lending to people to get extensions and new builds will stop. All the kids who did apprenticeships will be complaining they didn’t go to college.
Some of the narratives around people being pushed off apprenticeships are a bit disingenuous, for years it was fucking impossible to get an apprenticeship unless you’d family connections, the work and the money wasn’t really there, so that’s why people were being told to try go to college. Lads who didn’t go do a PLC or college were left working retail jobs or on the scratch because they couldn’t find an apprenticeship.
It’s great that it’s started to turn around the past few years, but it’s not as simple as people were being told not to bother.
The last four young lads I took on as apprentices were awful. Had to fire the lot of them. Constant no shows, late for work, fussy about certain jobs. I have no apprentice in the workshop now. It’s a real pity because I have a great crew of men who are willing to teach their knowledge.
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Great money to be made, in fairness.
20 years ago all the kids (myself included) were told you had to go to college/ University if you wanted to make something of yourself – that apprenticeships were only for the thickos.
How little did we know….
Yes, for plumbers and electritions and then they jet off to America/Oz/Canada.
and then they fly to Australia.
The reputation problem which the trades have is self-inflicted, there isn’t a single sector of the economy where people are so ready to cheat, lie, dick over and turn up late
I was in secondary school 2004-2009 and they pushed college on us constantly and told us to stay away from apprenticeships. Wankers.
My son is going into the trades, Aircraft Maintenance. He took over my workshop and this morning he’ll be doing the front brakes and discs on the car.
its the same with Further Education an element of snobbery towards them courses
For anyone interested, check out the ESB apprenticeships also. They sound great.
Wish I did a proper apprenticeship rather than a music tech degree. Life wouldn’t have been so much of a battle
Great news that the return to sanity continues to gather pace. The media driven obsessions of the Celtic Tiger era have caused immense damage to the country.
We need more diverse apprenticeships that cover niche industries within the general trades.
There’s a Broadcast Skills course in the ETB in Tralee that is probably one of the best equipped and taught media training course in the country. If you want to work in film, TV or video and actually learn to use all kinds of equipment, you’d be better off spending a year of your life there than doing a degree.
There are also tech apprenticeships where you can spend 18-24 months doing a blend of learning and working and end up working full time in good tech jobs with industry certs under your belt. A good option if you don’t think you can manage a full computer science degree.
If you go to college with a specific profession in mind then I still think it rings true you will make more money this way.
If you go to college to do a silly degree and fuck about then you are better to do a trade.
This site is hilarious.
Everybody went to college because college jobs were paying well but because the market got saturated the job didn’t have to pay as much to attract workers.
Nobody was a carpenter so carpenters started getting paid well when it was booming to attract workers.
I wish we all had of been carpenters.
I bet none of you would touch a broken waste pipe or climb a roof in the winter, or jump under a cold burst water pipe to get a valve on it and then work for the rest of the day soaked but you all think that if you say you wish you had of done it you will get more kids to do first year on a site for 200 euro a week.
People keep trying to give me their idiot sons to he apprentices like its some sort of remedial school, will ye take Sean with you for an apprenticeship he failed his leaving and has a crayon stuck up his nose, he’s not cut out for accountancy but I’m sure he can do whatever you do because you wear snickers trousers and talk a bit common.
There’s a reason I get paid what I do. If anybody could do it my wages would be declining every year just like the college jobs are.
.
There will be a recession sooner or later and most of the trades will go on the welfare, the banks won’t be lending to people to get extensions and new builds will stop. All the kids who did apprenticeships will be complaining they didn’t go to college.
Some of the narratives around people being pushed off apprenticeships are a bit disingenuous, for years it was fucking impossible to get an apprenticeship unless you’d family connections, the work and the money wasn’t really there, so that’s why people were being told to try go to college. Lads who didn’t go do a PLC or college were left working retail jobs or on the scratch because they couldn’t find an apprenticeship.
It’s great that it’s started to turn around the past few years, but it’s not as simple as people were being told not to bother.
The last four young lads I took on as apprentices were awful. Had to fire the lot of them. Constant no shows, late for work, fussy about certain jobs. I have no apprentice in the workshop now. It’s a real pity because I have a great crew of men who are willing to teach their knowledge.