Supreme Court appears likely to side with Trump on some presidential immunity

Supreme Court appears likely to side with Trump on some presidential immunity

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  1. The elites are preparing you for what they want to do….

  2. RBG should’ve retired under Obama when given the chance than giving into hubris expecting longshot Hillary to win 

  5. So..

    Joseph R. Biden can legally have some justices taken out by his personal guard and then appoint his own justices in their place?

    ~

    It’s possible that I’ve watched too much Sesame Street, but that doesn’t seem honorable.

  6. To be remembered in the same way that the Nuremberg Laws are now remembered as the judicial capitulation to a tyrant.

  9. They’re going to say the president is immune and it’s up to congress to impeach them if they think he should be prosecuted or some bullshit. They’ll basically be able to vote on whether or not the president should assassinate all of their political opponents.

  10. So the president murders Congress. The founders certainly considered this. The people would need the courts to defend the government. There is no debate, POTUS is subject to civic authority.

  11. Perhaps this court will be the impetus to change the court system in the US

  12. Hail King Biden, now banish the corrupt SCOTUS justices, the GOP swamp, and cancel the election!

  13. So. This is the end. Well, it’s been real. And it’s been fun (at times).

  14. What’s it gonna take for us to stand up for ourselves? Is it even possible?

  15. Or… Hear me out for a second.

    THE PRESIDENT SHOULDN’T BE DOING ILLEGAL SHIT!

  16. Sauce for the goose, Lt. Saavik. If trump sets precedent, President Biden can claim the same freedoms, logically.

  17. If they do rule this way, Biden should call for the immediate impeachment and removal of all of the justices who voted in favor of the ruling.

  19. If there’s not riots in the streets across the country about this I’ll lose what little faith I have left in humanity

  21. What clause of the constitution are these originalists claiming gives the president this immunity? I haven’t heard any explanation about where this immunity is defined it even implied.

  22. Still haven’t heard one legal opinion on what provision of the constitution they’re relying on. I’ve heard the “logic” for why they believe some limited immunity is appropriate (remember most of the conservative justices served/had family members serve in the executive branch), but they’re not legislators. They don’t get to create laws because they think they’re a good idea/necessary. So how are they going to justify this on constitutional grounds? It’s wild.

  23. We need to take to the streets. We can’t let them destroy democracy and stay silent.

  24. If they do, Biden should promptly order his assassination.

  25. Maybe I’m stupid, but why is it too much to ask that presidents, and other elected officials, follow the law just like the rest of us?

  26. If they grant him any immunity, your country is broken beyond repair

    It will never be put back in the bottle and will just be another tool for retaining power

    Their decision on this will be a watershed moment in time. Historians will look back and point out that this is the moment the rule of law chose an individual over your constitution and country

    This will be the point in time where they will pick when asked about the death of democracy in the US

    This is the ruling that will show SCOTUS Protected their president at the expense of all Americans.

    It’s sad

  27. Half the news articles are titled, “SCOTUS likely to side with Trump.” The other half are titled, “SCOTUS unlikely to side with Trump.” I wonder which ones generate more ad revenue?

  28. by “some” immunity, am i safe to assume they mean “when it’s a republican”?

  29. Biden should immediately exercise this immunity and dissolve the court.

  30. I would like it where it becomes more of a possible defense for any potential charges.

    There by a jury or court could decide if the actions were legal.

    Total immunity or none doesn’t work because I can already hear the keyboards in Texas filing charges about the border. But allowing their actions to be scrutinized and publicly at that is the best middle ground we have.

  32. Everyone thinks this is going to set a precedent, but it won’t. They’re just going to decide that Trump is a god and can do no wrong, but here on out everything must be done correctly and by the book..unless Trump gets re-elected. Then all bets are off and he can touch our buttholes.

  33. Guys why are you all talking like we’re just roll over for a christofascist regime? We have lives literally at stake. Additionally, we’d be condemning the world to a hostile and fascist US.

    We can’t let that happen. We have a civic and moral duty. So yes, vote like our lives depended on it. But don’t give in if things go sideways.

    Vote. Organize. Fight.

  34. So, if they do this, is there anyone in your country that can actually remove them from their office?

  36. They’ll likely just kick the can down the road. Which absolutely is a win for Trump without them fully committing to President as King.

    They’ll just say that within the circle of doing his official duties a President has immunity, but outside that for personal actions he doesn’t. And then punt what is and isn’t personal down to several more hearings to drag things out.

  37. Well, I for one relish a president legally ordering the assassination of corrupt federal judges who refuse to honor the basic moral and ethical standards of their profession because one party’s legislative delegation is partisan and corrupt and would not impeach a corrupt judge under any circumstances because of partisan politics.

    I’m ready to join the CIA and do my part for American democracy and fulfilling any official acts a sitting president deems necessary.

  39. There cannot be rule of law if the law does not apply to those who rule.

  40. > [Trump’s lawyer] pointed to the prospect, for example, that President Joe Biden could be charged with unlawfully inducing immigrants to enter the United States illegally through his border control policies.

    There it is – the perverted line of reasoning that Republicans will go cling to the next time they are inevitably in power (let’s not kid ourselves the Dems will hold on forever) if Trump is denied immunity.

    Absolutely batshit.

  41. Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson would roll over in their graves if they knew this even went to our highest court.

  43. The door has opened by a crack and others may well follow Trump down this path even if he does not succeed. That this is being countenanced by SCOTUS indicates to me that the USA is heading towards a dictatorship.

    The constitution is an archaic and poorly worded mess and is the source of this political quagmire. The first and second amendments come to mind, along with the politicisation of selecting SCOTUS, Stacking the Supreme Court, one way or another, leads to it being captured by idealogues.

    Constitutional amendment now appears almost impossible given the deep divisions in the electorate and the erosion of civil, fact based debate. It appears, unfortunately, that constitutional amendment will only be possible after a major crisis and this could either result in logical improvements or being done away with entirely.

    I do not have any solutions or answers to any of this. It is an enormous and tightly tangled mess which does my head in. My outlook is rather grim and I would be happy to be convinced otherwise,.

  44. Corrupt Justices. Supreme Court has zero legitimacy. Voting matters people. Get out and vote.

  46. According to the article the justices are worried that the laws could be weaponized. I thought it takes massive amounts of evidence to even make a federal indictment. So their concern is basically an admission that the courts and the justice system is now biased and can no longer try people fairly based on credible evidence.

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