Peter Crouch on if Jurgen Klopp has underachieved at Liverpool (1 Premier League trophy in 9 seasons): “No. You’ve to remember where the club was. He had players here that weren’t Liverpool players & he had to clear that out. And he competed with Man City on a shoestring budget compared to them.”
by TheBiasedSportsLover
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A shoestring budget? Is he insane?
Jurgen Klopp: working miracles on a shoestring.
“Shoestring budget”? He spent £850 million!
I get that his net spend was pretty low, but he still spent that.
I believe during the time of klopp vs pep. Liverpool spend around 340 mil and city spent 510(pretty sure but correct me if I’m wrong)
Wouldn’t call that a shoestring budget when comparing the two
It a total different journey, jurgan has done a project job not a ready made team. Liverpool were 13th when he took the job and a yoyo club for atleast 20 odd year with a lucky CL win. In that time they did nothing else.
He came and made liverpool what the fans actually sold to rival fans. Anyone who just says 1 PL title is the mindset of a causal football fan. He has to improve the club brand exposure + club infrastructure growth as the manager not head coach. In that time he made liverpool a competitive team where there are in title races this will easily be disregarded by rival fans but how many of them would want to be in a title race than sitting 6th? I mean a large rival fan base used to laugh at arsenal for top 4 trophy and now they become them…
Let be realistic when Pep took the city job his foundation is close to what Liverpool are now.. Yet Klopp has gone toe to toe starting at a way lower level of a sleeping giant. Liverpool spending is nature it didn’t need it owners other companies to pump money into fake sponsors. All done within FFP rules.
Net spend is a weird way to assess a manager, as they have no say on what they flog a player for? If they sell coutinho for 20 mil rather than 120 mil, does that make Klopp a worse manager cos the net spend under him is 100 mil less? Obviously not.
it should be the recruitment that gets credit for this, not the coach
Bought a goalkeeper and defender for at the time record fees, only reason his net spend is so low is how they fleeced Barca for Coutinhio. Fed up of hearing of this shoestring budget like they’ve been surviving on loans and free transfers or something
It’s a weird one for me, they had some unbelievable seasons and should really have won another 2 leagues. Like imagine getting the second most points in the PL of all time and it not being enough. That being said they’ve also had some very disappointing seasons
From memory it feels like he’s bought 1, occasionally 2 world class players per season, or certainly transfer fee wise. Others often been raw talents to build up. Also sold extremely well, Coutinho, Suarez, hell look at the fees they got for Ibe, Brewster and Solanke (whose only really started impressing this season). Where as city just tend to buy, £100mil Grealish, £80 mil Gvaridol (was he even needed?) however much on Doku. Yet Gundogan goes free, can’t remember if Aguero went free or cheap? £50mil on Phillips to never play.
Net spend is an absolutely pointless comparison tool. All it does is measure what saleable assets a club had. It’s not like everyone can just flip a player that no longer fits their system to Barca for 140M to balance the books. Liverpool got a bit lucky with that, otherwise, surely they could just do it again to get more players?
The only fair way to compare managers is gross spend, because that’s what the manager actually spent to build their team.
Swiss ramble did a piece a season or 2 ago where he compared City and Liverpools’ gross spend, but factored in player wages/bonuses and Pep and Klopp were a lot closer than you would think.
In any case, Klopp hasn’t underachieved.
You can make that argument when it comes to the league title sure but City weren’t winning the FA Cup and Champions League every season. Klopp won both of those trophies only once, for the FA Cup in particular that’s pretty poor.
Klopp won everything at Liverpool while competing against a club that broke all the rules, coming in when the club was midtable and going absolutely nowhere. You have to be blinded by petty irrational hatred to claim he’s underperformed, but any excuse to get reactions
I mean, I wouldn’t say it was a shoestring budget.
The money spent was a lot.
They sold well.
Money doesn’t always mean success. Look at Man Utd and Chelsea.
Now Leicester had a shoestring budget winning the league.
And so did Poch at Spurs when he nearly won the league and CL but didn’t.
Leicester City won a premier league on a shoestring budget. Luton Town are in a relegation battle because they got promoted and have a shoestring budget.
Plenty of teams during Klopps time in the Prem have had to work with a shoestring budget. Klopp’s Liverpool are not one of them.
Agreed except for the shoestring budget part
Yes football is ultimately about winning things bit if that is the only criteria you are going to use to measure success, you may as well pack it in.
To achieve 3 90+ point finishes and three champions league finals, to have a season where you are just 2 games from an unprecedented quadruple, is an immense achievement.
Even this year it like like the winner well need 90+ points.
Anyone who downplays Klopp’s achievements at Liverpool are either deluded or just paying things for banter.
Shoestring budget 😂😂😂😂😂
Their fans are sad it’s over and will look back with fond memories, you can’t ask for more imo.
In contrast to Wenger’s later years, there’s not that many fond memories and a lot of frustration, despite being near the top of the table and in Europe for most of it.
He has underachieved but the media can’t help but make out Liverpool are the greatest club in the world and they’re on for a quadruple every season apparently.. until they’re not..
Hes massively under achieved. Created some great teams but bottled so so many trophies.
Wasn’t a proper trophy either, covid season.
That’s the perfect way to describe it. Even if Nunez Gakpo aren’t completely settled and perfect they’re still Liverpool calibre players in the way Balotelli Borini Benteke etc never were.
Shoestring budget?!
If being the quickest ever manager to win all of the major 4 trophies is underachieving then 99% of managers are a failure
If it wasn’t for “same old city, always cheating”, they would have won more.
Coming from an ex Liverpool player , total bs ! He has underachieved ! 1 covid title . Compare that to the rivalry of United v Chelsea/ Arsenal their rivalry was close and with there almost an even spread of titles amongst them – that is rivalry !
City – Liverpool- city dominated not a Rivalry