Disabled people to get vouchers instead of cash in Sunak’s benefits blitz

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1. Wont happen. A consultantation will be published in a green paper. Nothing will be done before the next election.

   This is just talk to appease certain voters.

2. Didn’t the courts rule that once a benefit is paid it’s up to the claimant to decide what they spend it on. As in, it’s theirs once it’s paid and government can’t direct what they should spend it on. I guess these vouchers are a way around that, but still, I tick about 12 of the boxes in that article. My needs are so specialised and varied that I couldn’t rightfully say in advance what extra support I need and by the time some voucher is assessed for me my needs would then have changed. I find it offensive to suggest that I’m somehow not spending it on the rights things when I’m basically destitute and in debt already.

   Fuck this ghoulish man and his wild ideas to move money from one side of the room to the other and call it change. All he is doing is taking money best spent by the claimant and paying the assesor, now with an interest in withholding it, to deny them the money they already where awarded.

3. Sounds like political suicide but the guys a dildo sooo carry on… lol

4. Vouchers for what exactly? If your council want cold hard cash for your care each month out of your benefits I voucher for bread and gruel at Tescos isn’t going help! 

5. Not only would this be a horrific, dehumanizing practice that will shame people because they will be forced to openly show they get government support (obviously the plan), it will also likely cost way more policing that people dont sell these on and trying to get companies to accept them/setting up the system for that. Not to forget of course, the corruption around disabled people being abused/taken advantage of by people willing to give them say, 50% of the value for hard cash if they have addictions…

   Then of course you have the flip side of what if a voucher isnt working in a store, the shaming of customers using them, stopping fake coupons, etc. Working with PayPoint and pay station I would bet that there will be constant pain and suffering, people already feel ashamed when they come in with assistance vouchers, especially if they dont work, yet alone making them have to do this stuff…

   Then we have receipts, okay, so alcoholics have to go back with those then and be told they cant get the money they are entitled to under the support network anymore? We start judging people on the type of food they buy? The treats they get to help stop depressing realities a bit? Now they only are allowed to buy a pre-selected set of items and those must be bargin shelf items, no longer the “name brands” too?

   Yet alone the stupidity of offering medical help instead of finances, just openly admitting the medical system has been broken by the tories, it takes nearly 10 years to get diagnosed with bipolar in the UK now ffs.

   >A Government source familiar with the plans told The Telegraph: “These reforms are not about making the safety net less generous, but PIP is a blunt and increasingly unsustainable benefit.

   the only way to reduce the “unsustainable benefit” is to make it less generous, so it is about doing that…

   anyone who thinks the above are okay is sick in the head in my view, the types that would scream bloody murder if they got forced to do any of this about their rights.

   edit: also that stupid as hell graph and not comment why it begins at zero… because 3-4 million people were on legacy disability being crossed over…

6. “Love” their graph going all the way from 0 as if there’s been a ridiculous rise in people getting Personal Independence Payment from years of nothing despite the fact that it replaced Disability Living Allowance and the switch over was kind of staggered.

7. So us style food stamps way to degrade people even more

8. Keep punching down… One more dead cat. Bring the GE now and be gone.

9. At this point, I’m not really voting Labour so much as I’m voting “Viable Not Conservative”.

10. The left wing’s complete lack of theory of mind to conceptualize people exploiting the benefits system really is remarkable. They seem to tie some kind of moral worth in their refusal to do it. The stronger you reject it the better a person you are.

11. They’ve gotta be fairly desperate to trot this out, which segment of the electorate are they actually targeting with this?

    Are there significant numbers of people who would be persuaded to vote conservative by this? I would have thought that if you had made your mind up to or even considered not vote for them again then this isn’t exactly going to lure you back in as any supposed work shy culture has been presided over by the government.

    I would assume the proportion of the electorate who vote conservative come what may would approve of this or be indifferent but is it really going to motivate ‘swing’ type voters who are crucial for a victory or avoidance of annihilation in parliament.

12. i didnt pay in to this system to be shamed and humiliated if i dare fucking use it. disgusting cunts.

13. So are they proposing the same amount of benefits financially, but paid in vouchers instead?

    Sounds more costly and complicated.

    But I suspect his mates in large corporations where the vouchers will be restricted to will benefit from a captive pool of customers..

    More dodgy contracts for his cronies.

14. would this extend to scotland or just england and wales?

15. Vouchers… for what? PiP is a benefit intended to provide independence for people with a disability. It’s really broad.

16. If the government can pay benefits in vouchers, does that mean we can pay taxes in vouchers?

17. # MPs to get vouchers instead of cash in Sunak’s expenses blitz

    What should be happening ^

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18. This is so stupid. I’m on PIP for my disability needs, not so I don’t have to work – it’s not enough not to work and when I’ve finished uni I will work!

19. I’m disabled and spend my benefit on increasingly unaffordable public transport since I’ll never drive, do I have any guarantee that travelling would be considered essential rather than luxury? Who is deciding what these vouchers are spent on and are you seriously telling me that’s more efficient than the current system?

20. Why would a Tory treat the unfortunate with respect when they can humiliate them?

    Sneering is in their DNA.