Disappointing to see this American corporate drivel in an Irish newspaper.
Cheek of those quitters, next they’ll be pointing out that under EU law it’s illegal to dismiss someone for refusing to be voluntold to do unpaid overtime.
Are none of you concerned about how uneasy your manager might be feeling? You inhuman mobsters.
That’s late-stage capitalism for you; if you’re not working yourself into an early grave with stress and burnout by doing tonnes of extra work for free then the ruling classes don’t like it and search for a way to berate and punish you.
It’s a nonsense ragebait article, angry people click
What is this nonsense. Written by some
Gen AI phone obsessed omni offended person
Meanwhile in the real world.
Quiet quitting is just normal European working culture, it’s not a thing here.
Where as in the US it’s totally normal and expected to
go above and beyond – join calls early / late, check emails while at work etc.
The difference in working culture between our EU vs US offices is insane – and I guess why they are paid double. But I know what I’d pick!
I like how a pic of the headline was posted but not the article. It’s clickbait friends. You should actually read the article because it doesn’t say what everyone is assuming.
The article does start with quotes of managers and employers complaining about so called quiet quitters but the rest of the article explains that the behaviour that employers are complaining about is a result of how they’re treating their employees.
>At one level it’s reasonable to ask why should they? They are apparently fulfilling their employment obligations to the letter if not the spirit and if an organisation is constantly relying on employees to put in extra hours to make the business model work, it is going to be in big trouble when that goodwill runs out and it can hardly be surprised that it does.
I read the article and felt guilty because I’ve definitely pulled back in commitment in work in the last 2 years. Then I thought more about and realised I was still doing everything asked. I am focusing more on my life outside work, so my commitment to work has gone down as a result. I no longer feel guilty
Why anyone reads these papers anymore is beyond me.
Quiet quitting is such a vile stupid term, that it would take a compromised media for it to have survived as long as it has. Quiet quitting lol, give me a fuckin break like.
It’s the Irish Times. It’s clickbait. I like many of the writers on the IT but I cancelled my subscription because of this algorithmic driven drivel constantly popping up, plus the intolerable adverts you can’t not accidentally click on the app (even after I’d paid my subscription).
I thought “quiet quitters” were people whose job was so inconsequential and meaningless that they can sit at their desk doing nothing and nobody would even notice.
The Letter of the Day today is someone pushing back against the original, pretty neutral or show-both-sides, article.
Without a doubt it’s just rage bait for engagement. There are more retweets and comments on that piece than anything they’ve written in months.
What the fuck even is this quiet quitting?
Do we need to scream it from the roofs if we are looking for better opportunities and more pay?
Cuz when it’s offered, I’m gone.
No normal person announces every time they consider moving jobs or taking a new opportunity. Most places ask for 2 weeks notice. That’s 2 weeks enough.
Enough time for them to offer a raise.
I have been quiet quitting for years. I never understood the unpaid overtime shit in Ireland. I mean, why the fack do I need to work for free? If the employer is good to me and something has to be done late, early or in the weekend, I will happily do so. But I am not going to do structured overtime without pay. And any employer expecting me to do that, wont be my employer for long.
Sir, – I read with interest Olive Keogh’s
article (“Quiet quitting: You always had
workers who did 9-5 but it’s a creeping
malaise, employers say.”, April 25th).
The article defines working one’s
contract hours as a form of quitting, a
contortion of fact that I have struggled
to grasp since laying eyes on it.
It is asserted that employees are obliged
to put in extra hours, do additional work
and recalibrate their work-life balance
for the “benefits” of social capital,
“wellbeing” and career success
I have a novel proposal. Pay employees
in actual capital for the additional time
they are expected to work.
Dispense with the relaxation classes on
their lunch breaks and the sweet treats
and the tokenistic attitude of
management to the labour that drives
their business
Instead, resource staff sufficiently to
complete work within business hours
respect the rights of staff to a fulfilling
life not defined by their day jobs, and
stop using gaslighting terms like “quiet
quitting” for fulfilling the terms of their
contract of employment
This may seem radical to those
managers who have been around the
block, but KPIs (key performance
indicators) don’t spend time with my
loved ones nor do they put food on the
table. –
If you can’t show your boss the kind of enthusiasm that North Koreans show Kim Jong un then your not a team player.
This isn’t what quiet quitting is. Quiet quitting is when people call in all the work, do the absolute minimum and do not do anything proactively. So for example they only do 3 hours work in a day when they are paid for 8. I’ve fired one person for this behaviour already. If you’re paid for 7 hours then put in 7 hours, it’s pretty simple. If you’re not proactive in your job then you’re not going to get promoted (or get a raise) full stop. That seems logical. Currently I’ve got one quiet quitter on my staff and he gets the work done, slowly, but he’ll never get promoted. As long as he actually gets the work done properly we’ll keep him, but now that I know he’s quiet quit if the quality of the work drops he’ll be asked to leave. Seems fair to me. Also, we pay all our staff overtime. No one works overtime without being paid extra.
Complete fiction designed to generate clicks.
So I learn a new term everyday now. (coffee badging, quite quitting, moonlighting blah blah)
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Disappointing to see this American corporate drivel in an Irish newspaper.
Cheek of those quitters, next they’ll be pointing out that under EU law it’s illegal to dismiss someone for refusing to be voluntold to do unpaid overtime.
Are none of you concerned about how uneasy your manager might be feeling? You inhuman mobsters.
That’s late-stage capitalism for you; if you’re not working yourself into an early grave with stress and burnout by doing tonnes of extra work for free then the ruling classes don’t like it and search for a way to berate and punish you.
It’s a nonsense ragebait article, angry people click
What is this nonsense. Written by some
Gen AI phone obsessed omni offended person
Meanwhile in the real world.
Quiet quitting is just normal European working culture, it’s not a thing here.
Where as in the US it’s totally normal and expected to
go above and beyond – join calls early / late, check emails while at work etc.
The difference in working culture between our EU vs US offices is insane – and I guess why they are paid double. But I know what I’d pick!
I like how a pic of the headline was posted but not the article. It’s clickbait friends. You should actually read the article because it doesn’t say what everyone is assuming.
The article does start with quotes of managers and employers complaining about so called quiet quitters but the rest of the article explains that the behaviour that employers are complaining about is a result of how they’re treating their employees.
>At one level it’s reasonable to ask why should they? They are apparently fulfilling their employment obligations to the letter if not the spirit and if an organisation is constantly relying on employees to put in extra hours to make the business model work, it is going to be in big trouble when that goodwill runs out and it can hardly be surprised that it does.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/work/2024/04/25/quiet-quitters-test-employers-even-more-than-staff-departures/
I read the article and felt guilty because I’ve definitely pulled back in commitment in work in the last 2 years. Then I thought more about and realised I was still doing everything asked. I am focusing more on my life outside work, so my commitment to work has gone down as a result. I no longer feel guilty
Why anyone reads these papers anymore is beyond me.
Quiet quitting is such a vile stupid term, that it would take a compromised media for it to have survived as long as it has. Quiet quitting lol, give me a fuckin break like.
It’s the Irish Times. It’s clickbait. I like many of the writers on the IT but I cancelled my subscription because of this algorithmic driven drivel constantly popping up, plus the intolerable adverts you can’t not accidentally click on the app (even after I’d paid my subscription).
I thought “quiet quitters” were people whose job was so inconsequential and meaningless that they can sit at their desk doing nothing and nobody would even notice.
The Letter of the Day today is someone pushing back against the original, pretty neutral or show-both-sides, article.
Without a doubt it’s just rage bait for engagement. There are more retweets and comments on that piece than anything they’ve written in months.
What the fuck even is this quiet quitting?
Do we need to scream it from the roofs if we are looking for better opportunities and more pay?
Cuz when it’s offered, I’m gone.
No normal person announces every time they consider moving jobs or taking a new opportunity. Most places ask for 2 weeks notice. That’s 2 weeks enough.
Enough time for them to offer a raise.
I have been quiet quitting for years. I never understood the unpaid overtime shit in Ireland. I mean, why the fack do I need to work for free? If the employer is good to me and something has to be done late, early or in the weekend, I will happily do so. But I am not going to do structured overtime without pay. And any employer expecting me to do that, wont be my employer for long.
Sir, – I read with interest Olive Keogh’s
article (“Quiet quitting: You always had
workers who did 9-5 but it’s a creeping
malaise, employers say.”, April 25th).
The article defines working one’s
contract hours as a form of quitting, a
contortion of fact that I have struggled
to grasp since laying eyes on it.
It is asserted that employees are obliged
to put in extra hours, do additional work
and recalibrate their work-life balance
for the “benefits” of social capital,
“wellbeing” and career success
I have a novel proposal. Pay employees
in actual capital for the additional time
they are expected to work.
Dispense with the relaxation classes on
their lunch breaks and the sweet treats
and the tokenistic attitude of
management to the labour that drives
their business
Instead, resource staff sufficiently to
complete work within business hours
respect the rights of staff to a fulfilling
life not defined by their day jobs, and
stop using gaslighting terms like “quiet
quitting” for fulfilling the terms of their
contract of employment
This may seem radical to those
managers who have been around the
block, but KPIs (key performance
indicators) don’t spend time with my
loved ones nor do they put food on the
table. –
Yours, etc,
[SOURCE](https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/2024/04/27/quiet-quitters-or-good-workers/)
More bullshit from the Fake Tan Times.
So competency is a failing now!
If you can’t show your boss the kind of enthusiasm that North Koreans show Kim Jong un then your not a team player.
This isn’t what quiet quitting is. Quiet quitting is when people call in all the work, do the absolute minimum and do not do anything proactively. So for example they only do 3 hours work in a day when they are paid for 8. I’ve fired one person for this behaviour already. If you’re paid for 7 hours then put in 7 hours, it’s pretty simple. If you’re not proactive in your job then you’re not going to get promoted (or get a raise) full stop. That seems logical. Currently I’ve got one quiet quitter on my staff and he gets the work done, slowly, but he’ll never get promoted. As long as he actually gets the work done properly we’ll keep him, but now that I know he’s quiet quit if the quality of the work drops he’ll be asked to leave. Seems fair to me. Also, we pay all our staff overtime. No one works overtime without being paid extra.
Complete fiction designed to generate clicks.
So I learn a new term everyday now. (coffee badging, quite quitting, moonlighting blah blah)