There’s a hard-right tidal wave about to hit Europe – and it will only make the economic crisis worse | Gordon Brown

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/29/hard-right-tidal-wave-europe-economic-crisis-worse

by EduTheRed

30 comments
  1. I wish the author had another surname so he could title his piece “A brown tidal wave about to hit Europe”

  2. What Europe really needs is moderate conservatives focusing on the conditions of a good life: cheap housing, no barriers to education, and support for families. Combined with a more restrictive approach to immigration (not inhumane though) this would keep the far right out of government

  3. As the chancellor that presided over the run-up to the GFC and the prime minister who led the lacklustre UK response to it (which included scrapping the 10% income tax bracket and raising VAT, both of which increased the tax burden on the very poorest), which resulted in it hitting the UK harder than most countries, I don’t give a fuck about his opinion. He should have disappeared. The fact that he’s a “party grandee” is why I’m not planning on voting at the next election.

  4. Cope. Hopefully we can get some change for this current garbage.

  5. oh let’s ask the prime-Minister of a country that left the EU what he thinks of EU politics… maybe he should be more concerned about the Rwanda bill in his own country…? 🤔

  6. And hard-left spending spree would magically solve economic crisis for good?

  7. As an italian i get that Meloni sounds scary but really she wants to take Berlusconi s void in italian politics. She surrounds herself of far right people and gets far right votes but as for her policies and foreign policies she s been far from extremist, she s doing exactly what berlusconi did, using the votes of far right believers to get elected and then not do anything for them. Don t get me wrong, i seriously hate her and would never ever vote for her, but she s no Marine Lepen, she literally used far right votes to get elected and when in power followed a purely liberal agenda, supporting otan, ukraine and the US. I myself don t understand why her followers were not pissed by this…. beside some minor adjustments on abortion laws she has not really done much in a far right sense. Lega Nord candidate is what a true far right douchebag is, and Meloni herself just nuked his candidacy yesterday by publicly ridiculizing his ideas.

    She s just a crook who wants to keep her golden job and privileges, don t expect her to be a real issue in europe.

  8. The extreme right has already been outed as mostly Russian, Iranian and Chinese fear propaganda through social media and other outlets.

    Half of them work for Authoritarian regimes and the other half is braindead haters.

    The Israeli pioneered mass suggestion and fear mongering on social media and there have been several botfarms with many thousands of accounts spreading Israeli messages that promote Israeli values and attack people who claim Israel is anything but the purest state filled with benign people.

    The Authoritarians NK, China, Russia, Iran etc also do it but their attempts are low quality but mass produced. They create thousands of botfarms and spread lies and propaganda.

    Who is the target of all these lies?

    Well, that is you and me.

    People on the internet, particularly in democratic western countries is the main target, western leaning countries like Brazil, India etc are also targets but in a lesser degree.

    Why?

    Because Democracies are slow to react, hard to change and easy to divide.

    Take the example of the American aid to Ukraine, Russian propaganda and corrupt American politicians held up aid for months, allowing Russia to gain land while Ukraine ran out of bullets.

    How? by slowing things down and gaining their supporters some time in the states by blanketing the media with negative posts about Ukraine.

    Public opinion matters.

    In Democracies they matter more then we think.

    Here is what u need to know.

    Ukraine good.

    Russia bad.

    Support Ukraine.

    Oppose Russia.

    4 simple sentiments that will help the world have a brighter future.

    We are at the crossroads folks, AI is around the corner and a brand new world.

    Do we want to enter that era with Russia hanging over us or do we want to enter a brand new age with Russia left licking its wounds and not posing a threat to anyone?

    We decide.

  9. What do you mean “about to” aren’t we already in the middle of it?

  10. Well. While Europe is in shambles and people are tired of the lefts incompetence.

  11. How do you explain a right-wing extremist (or left btw) the consequences of their actions? They can only see crime and north-africans and fail to see the much bigger problem they are causing.

  12. Approx 30 years of Mr and Mrs Ordinary person being ignored over globalisation and mass immigration.

    The rich, of course, love all this:

    We’re increasing total GDP, getting cheap service industry labour. Great for one’s clever clever little dropship business darling, and so so good for my liberal conscience

    As for Mr and Mrs ordinary living in a not so fashionsble town- well must they’re obviously narrow minded bigots.

    Gordon Brown, who single handedly destroyed the UK private pensions of very ordinary people? Well, he lost an election because he left his microphone on. A really ordinary old lady asked him about mass illegal immigration and the effect on communities.

    Back in his car he was caught sneering at her- called her ‘just some old bigot’.

    OK millionaire Gordon Brown. Thanks.

  13. Why can’t we have moderate everything? Yes the immigration crisis is a problem and needs to be curved, heavily. But financially illiterate Putin puppets aren’t the answer.

    I just want moderation…

  14. What Europe really needs is governments to get the fuck out of our business

  15. Is there normal right? It looks to me that anyone not in line with the left are Alt-right, Far-right, fascist, racist ….

  16. >”about to”

    They’ve been saying this since 15 years by now ….

  17. Their sick of your incompetence. Everything falls apart with you weenies.

  18. While I have some respect for old style politicians like Gordon Brown, mass migration of economically unproductive types hasn’t exactly launched European nations into the stratosphere.

    At best the elites get cheap labour, but even then that’s not a given, and a lot of their own small enterprises like kebab shops and carwashes tend to not pay taxes. Not to mention all the other social costs related to integration, crime, healthcare costs etc. Also when they do work they send their earnings back to their homeland.

  19. Oh this will rile up all the right people in this subreddit

  20. Right wing policies tend to speed up the economy at the expense of the lower classes of society.

    Which may or may not be a good thing for Europe depending on how you look at it.

  21. I keep hearing dreadful stories about migrant violence in Western Europe, from my home country peeps that fucked back off here after getn beaten and/or robbed (or worse, unfortunately) – so tbh, Europe goen far right is not surprising at all.

    It’s worrying, ofc, but does not surprise me – just hope it doesn’t go *that* far right.

  22. The commie left completely ruined Europe and they cry about the right who are not even in power? Makes total sense! Fuck the left!

    Btw Meloni is as far left as it gets, she is the biggest Soros shill in Italy. She pretended to be right, but did a complete 180 after elections.

  23. This point probably should be challenged by someone a lot smarter than me, but is this actually even that true? Like remove the morality side of the “hard-right” for a second and I’ll add a disclaimer that I’m a boring centrist myself. But like if you look at like Poland and Italy as examples he would probably describe as hard-right, are these economies worse than where they were than when they were inherited by the hard right?

    I do though seem to remember an awful lot of sensible centrists being in charge of many countries in 2008 however.

  24. immigration is the number 1 issue for voters, left, right and center.

    Meanwhile politicians sponsored by Capitalists:
    Why are people voting for racist?
    Please stop, or we will make you poorer!

  25. I never expected mr brown to say anything positive about conservative parties. Not even to explain the reasons or why the left is ceasing to exist in most of Europe.

  26. I have f**ked enough conservative men to know that most of the “hard right” are hypocritical.

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