Legal experts: “Shameful” Supreme Court puts US one vote away from “the end of democracy”
https://www.salon.com/2024/04/29/legal-experts-shameful-puts-us-one-vote-away-from-the-end-of-democracy/
Legal experts: “Shameful” Supreme Court puts US one vote away from “the end of democracy”
https://www.salon.com/2024/04/29/legal-experts-shameful-puts-us-one-vote-away-from-the-end-of-democracy/
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Corrupt, useless government body interpreting the law in the way that preserves its own power rather than administering justice.
And no one is actually stopping them.
>“To at least five of the conservatives, the real threat to democracy wasn’t Trump’s attempt to overturn the election — but the Justice Department’s efforts to prosecute him for the act”.
I don’t understand why there isn’t a million people protesting in front of the Supreme Court in this very dangerous moment in the US history.
I didn’t listen to a bunch of audio but I don’t think they pushed hard enough on the hypotheticals, and I didn’t hear them press that if impeachment/conviction was the supposed correct path for an immune President, that’d mean any president could do what they want in the last days of their presidency.
Our court has been bought and paid for, thanks to Trump. Worst president ever.
Blame the Theocrats in this country.
I kind of hope we see protests over this, which actually affects everyone here in the country. Seems like this is deserving of the same energy as the ongoing college protests.
Ironically, the Supreme Court has more justices nominated by Presidents who have lost the popular vote and confirmed by Senators in states with a minority of the population over the objection of Senators who represent the majority of the population. We haven’t had a Democracy for a long time, it’s only the veneer of Democracy that is being peeled back.
One vote away from the end of the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court is one vote away from losing legitimacy, and then those judges will lose all their secret dark money when no court takes their rulings as law anymore.
Imagine a country where the law of the land is decided when a couple of old people die, and the president is of a corrupt and bought party.
Has anyone wondered why it got like this? (It was a ruling that said corporations are people)
I can’t believe democracy is at stake because of *Donald Trump*. even after 8 years of occasional moments of awareness (because you just kinda push it to the back of your mind as it’s just easier not to think about it, or you’re just used to the clown show) where I stopped and thought “fucking hell, Donald Trump is/was president” I never once imagined America would be this close to fascism and that he would be their leader. it still boggles my mind.
In all seriousness, were it to be deemed that official acts of the president can not be deemed unlawful what’s to Stop Biden removing the Conservative members of the supreme Court. Installing new ones then asking them to reverse the decision from that point onwards? Does it then make the whole process a mockery whereby the pearl clutching outrage actually reaches a point of civil war? Would that be preferable to what would happen the next time a despotic simpleton gets in again.
They haven’t actually decided yet, correct? When is that decision expected?
First strike against democracy: Bush defeats Gore in 2000 by a margin of negative half a million votes.
Second strike against democracy: trump defeats Clinton in 2016 by a margin of negative 3 million votes.
Third strike against democracy in 2024 and it’s all done? Finished?
House Democrats should have a “Save our Democracy” bill ready to go as soon as this horrible decision is made. Let republicans show the country how opposed they are to a free democracy.
If SCOTUS gives Trump immunity, you can expect a huge crime wave to unfold all across the country. Nothing will hold them back.
The “They’re all the same, Im voting independent, not Hillary” crowd really do need to apologize at this point. Two party systems are a joke but if you seriously thought she’d have the same long term impact for the average American as the fucking fascist orange then you were never really paying attention.
Either vote or fight. Because we’re not just gonna roll over for a christofascist regime. There are actual lives at stake.
> “If an incumbent who loses a very close, hotly contested election knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into a peaceful retirement but that the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy?”
Alito really needs to find an exit from the planet as soon as he can.
They just opened the door to SCOTUS reform.
So, if they rule a president is above the law… Does this mean Joe Biden could have the 5 conservatives justices secretly arrested, then pretend they were all killed in a bombing, and select 5 supreme court justices? Then in 4 years when everyone learns the truth claim total immunity?
The insanity of their arguments at this point threatens to end the very fabric of our democracy.
The vulnerability of this Country is all exposed for the World and future traitors to see. Great job SCOTUS jack asses, sacrificing hundreds of years of pain and suffering for an old turd who will probably die of old age in less than 10 years.
If SCOTUS judges for Presidential immunity, Biden essentially would be forced to use it immediately, so the end of democracy either way.
Of course, they would never make that ruling while Biden was still President. They will delay it, which works out for Trump either way as well.
I am not surprised at all just sad smh
I can’t fucking believe this is where we are as a nation. History just keeps on repeating itself. The GOP agrees with Hitler, but somehow think that they’ll be able to do what he wasn’t. We’ve not exactly been a positive force in the world. If you look past our propaganda machine, we’ve toppled governments of sovereign nations, assassinated world leaders, killed countless people with drone strikes within the borders of countries that aren’t our allies, but we aren’t at war with, influenced the outcome of political issues abroad, dropped not one, but two bombs on civilians, killed countless Vietnamese civilians, hired contractors to torture and kill because the military itself has to sometimes loosely follow rules of engagement, had military personnel imprisoned foreign nationals without any legal representation and tortured them, our service members rape and kill with next to no consequences, and a boatload of other shit. We aren’t the good guys, in spite of indoctrination from birth telling us otherwise. If we end up any more divided, we will be weakened and start killing each other over ideological differences because basic decency is now a political argument. All I can say is that these people are likely in for a very harsh reality check if this is how things go.
Expand the court or impeach these people. Turban and the best rest of the Democrats better get their shit together and get rid of these traitors on the court.
History will not be kind to Trump or his enablers.
So…what if they rule that a political assassination ordered by a sitting president is ok and Dark Brandon fully embraces the dark side before the election? Then what conservofacists?
They’re the same people that will call you a filthy communist if you suggest that US citizens should have single payer healthcare and taxes on the wealthy. Just goes to show that they never actually cared about democracy. It was just a convenient excuse.