Remote working is great but is it not a risk that if our jobs can be done from anywhere, they can be outsourced to people in countries with a lower cost of living that can work for less?
Seems sensible enough.
There will no doubt be a brigade demanding to know why the bill doesn’t make it obligatory to allow remote working, to which the answer is that it’s not possible for the Government to decide which businesses can support remote work (IT, call centres, etc.) and which cannot (warehouses, manufacturing, etc.).
It’s up to the businesses, and the Government can only really put in place a framework for nudging things in that direction and for supporting action against employers who won’t engage at all or who have discriminatory practices.
In the long run, businesses for which it’s viable will attract more talented staff because they can retain them, and will have a lower cost base.
Don’t understand why this isn’t already a thing
**Employee:** I want to work from home
**Employer:** No
**Employee:** I have the right to request this, I’m going to bring a case and appeal this decision and force remote working
**Independent Assessor:** Why can’t you grant remote working?
**Employer:** We need the person on-site as we… erm… have confidential files that need to stay within our protected servers/networks
**Independent Assessor:** That’s grand so, appeal denied
**Employer:** Now back to work, bitch
A week too late (deliberately I assume). Got our email today saying everyone back, no question. And this is a state body.
It will be interesting to see how the legislation has been drafted.
Will companies be permitted to refuse a work from home request only in very specific and/or clearly defined circumstances?
Or will the employer have the authority to cite a flat refusal based on some generic excuse that could fit any industry or role?
If it’s the latter, then the legislation will be unworkable and utterly pointless. If it’s the former, IBEC and various other employer lobby groups will swing into high gear and do their level-best to water it down before it successfully passes though the Oireachtas.
Either way, I could see this plugging up the WRC something fierce during this year…
Not enough. They should actively incentivise it. Something like 90% of an employees carbon emissions comes from their commute. Companies should be given tax credits or something if the facilitate WFH.
I guess we will know how seriously the powers that be actually care about climate change and all the other shite they bang on about depending on how hard they pursue WFH .
In the U.K. the tories are trying to get everyone back into offices ASAP to prop up the property market and to keep Pret and the likes in business (I assume).
That’s despite the fact the WFH decreases carbon emissions, air and noise pollution, congestion and overcrowding on public transport. It’s also better for employee quality of life and it helps to combat rising housing costs and it also promotes decentralisation. Among other things.
To me this Clearly shows where the tories priorities lie. They’re only interested in green policies when they can raise taxes from it and/ or their mates rich of it.
Let’s see what FFG do.
It’s completely toothless. There was nothing stopping you from requesting WFH before. They should put incentives in place for companies to offer WFH.
Not every job is going to be able to WFH. Plus not every person wants to WFH. I seen on other forums people giving out because they have been made WFH and they don’t want to because of various reasons
So you need to take into consideration everyone.
I have the option of WFH since 2006, it was never official or anything but I would go into the office 1-2 days most weeks and the rest of the time would be offsite or at home. I talked to lots of people during the pandemic and most wanted a hybrid system. The ability to WFH for 3-4 days a week and work in office for 1-2.
We are going back soon and will have a hybrid system now with option to probably totally WFH but I don’t want it. It is good to head into the office for the odd day in a week, even for a social point of view. I found the last 2 years hard because you couldn’t just switch off and go for a coffee with 1-2 people from the office for a chat about s**te and nothing to do with work, zoom calls do not work.
In reality a hybrid system will suit the majority of people
We should do everything we can NOW before they will put us back into an Office, everyone should NOW email their work requesting working from home. NOW it’s the time to do it before it will be too late.
No interest in losing two hours a day to commuting.
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Remote working is great but is it not a risk that if our jobs can be done from anywhere, they can be outsourced to people in countries with a lower cost of living that can work for less?
Seems sensible enough.
There will no doubt be a brigade demanding to know why the bill doesn’t make it obligatory to allow remote working, to which the answer is that it’s not possible for the Government to decide which businesses can support remote work (IT, call centres, etc.) and which cannot (warehouses, manufacturing, etc.).
It’s up to the businesses, and the Government can only really put in place a framework for nudging things in that direction and for supporting action against employers who won’t engage at all or who have discriminatory practices.
In the long run, businesses for which it’s viable will attract more talented staff because they can retain them, and will have a lower cost base.
Don’t understand why this isn’t already a thing
**Employee:** I want to work from home
**Employer:** No
**Employee:** I have the right to request this, I’m going to bring a case and appeal this decision and force remote working
**Independent Assessor:** Why can’t you grant remote working?
**Employer:** We need the person on-site as we… erm… have confidential files that need to stay within our protected servers/networks
**Independent Assessor:** That’s grand so, appeal denied
**Employer:** Now back to work, bitch
A week too late (deliberately I assume). Got our email today saying everyone back, no question. And this is a state body.
It will be interesting to see how the legislation has been drafted.
Will companies be permitted to refuse a work from home request only in very specific and/or clearly defined circumstances?
Or will the employer have the authority to cite a flat refusal based on some generic excuse that could fit any industry or role?
If it’s the latter, then the legislation will be unworkable and utterly pointless. If it’s the former, IBEC and various other employer lobby groups will swing into high gear and do their level-best to water it down before it successfully passes though the Oireachtas.
Either way, I could see this plugging up the WRC something fierce during this year…
Not enough. They should actively incentivise it. Something like 90% of an employees carbon emissions comes from their commute. Companies should be given tax credits or something if the facilitate WFH.
I guess we will know how seriously the powers that be actually care about climate change and all the other shite they bang on about depending on how hard they pursue WFH .
In the U.K. the tories are trying to get everyone back into offices ASAP to prop up the property market and to keep Pret and the likes in business (I assume).
That’s despite the fact the WFH decreases carbon emissions, air and noise pollution, congestion and overcrowding on public transport. It’s also better for employee quality of life and it helps to combat rising housing costs and it also promotes decentralisation. Among other things.
To me this Clearly shows where the tories priorities lie. They’re only interested in green policies when they can raise taxes from it and/ or their mates rich of it.
Let’s see what FFG do.
It’s completely toothless. There was nothing stopping you from requesting WFH before. They should put incentives in place for companies to offer WFH.
Not every job is going to be able to WFH. Plus not every person wants to WFH. I seen on other forums people giving out because they have been made WFH and they don’t want to because of various reasons
So you need to take into consideration everyone.
I have the option of WFH since 2006, it was never official or anything but I would go into the office 1-2 days most weeks and the rest of the time would be offsite or at home. I talked to lots of people during the pandemic and most wanted a hybrid system. The ability to WFH for 3-4 days a week and work in office for 1-2.
We are going back soon and will have a hybrid system now with option to probably totally WFH but I don’t want it. It is good to head into the office for the odd day in a week, even for a social point of view. I found the last 2 years hard because you couldn’t just switch off and go for a coffee with 1-2 people from the office for a chat about s**te and nothing to do with work, zoom calls do not work.
In reality a hybrid system will suit the majority of people
We should do everything we can NOW before they will put us back into an Office, everyone should NOW email their work requesting working from home. NOW it’s the time to do it before it will be too late.
No interest in losing two hours a day to commuting.
This will be as toothless as Toothless Joe
It is not a right if you need permission.