„Ich schließe nichts aus“ – Macron hält Truppen für die Ukraine für möglich, wenn Russland die Frontlinien durchbricht

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/32010

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  2. Probably never direct frontline confrontation but France strengthening Ukraine’s back with anti air operations
    Equipment and troops stationed in western Ukraine or even planes launched from neighbouring countries targeting Russian missiles and drones.

    There is a lot of levels of escalation to France putting boots on the ground in Ukraine. 

    People like to jump to the Russian propaganda narrative of WW3 though, not understanding that Russia taking Ukraine against all western efforts, would be the start of an international poly crisis of countries trying to resolve their territorial disputes which would then be about as close to WW3 as we could get.

  3. I’m happy to see France’s developments in dealing with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. They were slow to start, but at this point, I think Macron is being reasonable but firm.

    There’s no need to put boots on the ground, but it should be made clear that no inch of Ukraine is for the taking. We can’t keep trying to reason with dictators. It doesn’t work.

  5. France is suddenly so invested in this because in the last few years Putin has sponsored coup after coup in the francafrique, causing those African nations to pull away and divest themselves from France. There’s a big part of France’s economy that’s just gone now

    https://apnews.com/article/france-africa-coups-gabon-41076df319704032aa729ad3fd137bc9

    https://www.npr.org/2023/09/29/1202582084/recent-coups-in-africa-have-an-effect-on-at-least-1-country-in-europe-france

  6. If Trump wins, there will be (French/Polish/UK) NATO troops in Ukraine before Friday. Just because everyone will need to force his small orange hands into keeping the war going instead of pulling out like a pussy. Biden will send troops too when that happens.

    Personally I don’t think we should wait till November, and go clean it up now by enforcing a no-flight zone over the East.

  9. Can someone explain to me if NATO Article 5 triggers if France decides to unilaterally engage in Ukraine?

    Will it just spark a contentious meeting where an Article 5 vote is put on, or would that be mostly a formality and a full NATO confrontation would be a near certainty.

    Is it more likely that such an action would only trigger the EU’s security agreements, would that trigger them at all?

    Thanks.

  10. Isn’t this the kind of thing the French foreign legion is for? Conflicts that you don’t want your regular army directly involved in.

  11. This is just political ambiguity nothing more. Putin and China do the same all the time. I’ll consider that French troops in Ukraine is more likely when I see more mobilization or industrialization towards war status.

  13. After how good France did in Libya I don’t expect much.

  14. French troops acting as a defensive line is a good idea.

    You know what’s better? A NATO no fly zone.

  16. Russia will not stop at Ukraine, this is very clear yet people refuse to accept this.

    NATO should be investing all of it’s power into keeping Ukraine afloat, if we let Ukraine fall it only gives russia a little playground to destroy before their inevitable collapse.

  17. Why is France so vocal about this war? Countries closer to Russia aren’t making these kinds of statements.

  18. Start giving russia red lines instead of us following theirs.

  20. Until troops are deployed everything is just grand-standing. It’s been 2 years already and they’re just now thinking about doing something other than “sending thoughts, prayers and maybe some artillery”.

    This invasion of Ukraine is the best way for the French army to experience high intensity war to learn where its efforts have to been put to transition to this kind of conflict without risking much. But nope, let’s just table it for next decade and not hear what our generals have to say about the condition of said army regarding said kind of conflicts.

  21. Oh it will be interesting to find out what corpse limit he has 10,100, 1000, 10,000 … before the media and the opposition descend on him.

  22. What is the status of support for this in France? The President’s party? Other parties? Right/left/farther left or Greens?/. Farther right, LePen? How will people react when/if French troops are killed?

  23. Moron…sorry but I’m not dying for Ukrine. I could give 2 shits if there influenced by russia or usa…all same shit.

  25. The US are good Allies to have. I hope we back our French brothers and join the fray. Russia wouldn’t use its nukes or it already would have used tactical nukes by now. No matter how much paint pro ru try to polish the turd that is the 3 day smo, Putin is at risk of sparking an internal conflict. The oligarchs are only going to let their profits get diminished for so long.

  26. Macron is the only one thinking about whether we’d really be able to accept a complete Russian takeover of Ukraine if that starts to happen.

    It’s a really tough decision either way. The alternative he’s proposing is WW3.

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