Macron says European nationalists are ‘hidden Brexiteers’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/05/02/macron-says-european-nationalists-are-hidden-brexiteers/

by TheTelegraph

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  1. **The Telegraph reports:**

    European nationalists are all “hidden Brexiteers”, [Emmanuel Macron](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/emmanuel-macron/) has said ahead of the bloc’s elections next month.

    Speaking to the Economist, the French president said: “I say to Europeans: Wake up. Wake up! They are hidden Brexiteers. All European nationalists are hidden Brexiteers. It’s all the same lies.”

    “Make no mistake. If you entrust the keys to people who think like they do, there is no reason why Europe should become a great power.”

    “In a way it’s as if we were saying it’s not a problem if we entrust the bank to robbers. When they are around the table, they take Europe hostage.”

    Mr Macron gave the example of Marine Le Pen’s hard-Right National Rally (RN) party, which is now [leading in opinion polls](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/16/marine-le-pen-france-election/) for the European contest, ahead of his own centrist alliance.

    The RN “wanted to pull out of Europe, out of the euro, out of everything”, he said.

    “Now it no longer says anything. It’s reaping the benefits of Europe, while wanting to destroy it without saying anything.

    He added: “And that’s true in every country.”

    He noted that [Giorgia Meloni](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/28/italy-giorgia-meloni-eu-election-candidate/), the Italian prime minister whose Brothers of Italy party has neo-fascist roots, had “a European approach” and had “supported the asylum and immigration pact”.

    But “after that, the best way of building together is to have as few nationalists as possible”, he added.

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  3. Sigh. World is about to end because I think Macron is damn right!

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    holy fuck move on

  5. Of course they are , wtf :)) … I stumbled upon loads of pro-russia/anti-west idiots (who live in EU of course) who basically believe the EU is a dead ‘project’ soon to be disbanded before you even realise they are also russia/Putin sympathisers.

    If the Right will get majority in any country, the first thing they will do is push towards an EU exit vote … that’s obviously the target of Putin and what have we, to destabilise completely the euro zone.

  6. It’s clear that Macron is really the true leader of Europe which would explain why Russia and all their “hidden” allies want to take him down so much

  7. Reading his quote… I’m not sure I agree.

    I want people in the EU to be safe, happy, wealthy (or at least, not poor), with a broad set of laws to protect their rights. Being a “great power” isn’t something I have any interest in.

  8. Macron : Bring out the Brexit boogeyman… it’s time to ~~scare~~ wake up Europeans

  9. Brexiteers under the bed! There is a specter haunting Europe…

  10. Considering the large amount of “Euroskepticism” in nationalist parties, he has a point, but he’s overdoing it

  11. Yes the Daily Telegraph would know how to recognise a Brexiteer – it created most of them

  13. oh no, those who are critical of the EU may vote to leave the EU if they think it does not benefit them

    turns out blind trust in the system is great according to Macron

    i dont trust other governments because its not in their interest to protect me, i dont vote for them, they dont represent me, they have the duty to prioritize their voters, so if shit hits the fan, they will use their influence to minimize their fall, while using poorer countries as a nice pillow to fall on

    (I dont think my government represents me either, but thats a different topic)

  15. If you love your country you are a (the bad thing)

    keep repeating that long enough and people will become (the bad thing) because you told them to

  16. So, I’m a hidden Brexiteer because I want to keep the sovereignty of my nation? If that’s the case, then yes, Manu, I’m a hidden Brexiteer.

  17. Yep, the real problem in Europe right now, it’s nationalists. But why are people turning to the right ?

    A 15yo was killed this week by an Afghan known to be violent but released. We literally lost track of the number of people killed by migrants in just a month or two, there is just too much to remember all of them. His priority should be the security of the French.

    Why do English voted Brexit ? Because they see their country turning to shit. Same as why French will vote for the so called nationalist.

  19. Well, I live in the UK. When the referendum happened, I was too young to vote, but most people I know were strongly remain. The sentiment is still strong here, there are calls for a second referendum and many Brexit voters that I did know have since said they regretted it.

    I always call myself a European over anything else. I consider myself to be European and perhaps a European nationalist, and I can assure you that that feeling is th complete opposite of being a Brexiteer. That being said, it is Macron saying this so can we really expect him to have any credibilité?

  20. Well it’s kinda inherently in the name.

    Of course there’s intelligent and “nationalistic’ people able to be nuanced and proud of their country that still support and favor EU and cooperation, they just don’t go around proclaiming how they are so so nationalistic as if it’s a black and white issue – but when you think “Nationalists” you instantly think of the ones that are extreme about it to where they proclaim full independence and isolationism breaking up into camps. “Proud nationalists” that constantly let’s everyone know how nationalistic they are; where their vision doesn’t align with reality and consequently they tend to effectively harm the country instead.

    Truly nationalistic and patriotic of them!

    If someone openly portrays themselves as such I instantly know not to bother with them; simply not worth the energy knowing that any debate would be fruitless anyway with people blinded by ideals. Be it political extremists or religious zealots.

  21. Telegraph making real money from r/europe clicks today.

  22. Macron is a moron. We all hate him in France because he is incompetent in every domain

  23. I feel like you can’t put them all into one group. A lot of people are called nationalist because they want tougher immigration. Some people want to see the powers of the EU reduced as well, but that doesn’t mean they want to see the EU destroyed and have everyone be a mindless puppet of putin

  24. Russia invaded Ukraine because of Brexit, hamas terrorists attacked Israel because of Brexit, I think we have heard most of them by now.

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