Here’s what Ukraine needs in missiles, shells and troops to win. It’s completely doable

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1. > A rough annual cost estimate for all these munitions ranges from £16 billion to £28 billion to fund a Ukrainian defensive posture, and £43 billion to £57 billion when on the offensive. That doesn’t account for the cost of procurement, operations and sustainment of platforms.

   In other news …

   > Representatives of China, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia are privately pushing the EU to continue resisting pressure from the U.S. and U.K. to seize more than €200 billion of Russian state assets it immobilized after February 2022’s invasion of Ukraine to help Kyiv’s reconstruction efforts, four officials with knowledge of the proceedings told POLITICO.

2. Ukraine won’t win, stop wasting people’s lives forcing them to fight for the great Western cause.

3. Everybody knows that it’s doable if the countries who help Ukraine will start ramping up production in multiplicative way and accessing their stockpiles. But current Western strategy is to contain the war in Ukraine and supply it just enough that it doesn’t lose too much in hopes that eventually Russia will stop and decides to negotiate. I will be honestly mind-blown if the West changes its policy regarding the war from escalation management to making sure Ukraine wins.

4. … to win. Hol’ up for a second. At the moment we are talking about how can Ukraine even survive and successfully defend to avoid a collapse. Talking about winning is simply delusional and can not be taken seriously.

5. Bot much?

6. “””””win”””””

7. They dont have enough men

8. I knew that even without reading the article.

   The real question is: does the western world really want ukraine to win?

   It’s a shame, because we all know we could make ukraine win easily.

9. And men

10. I’m sure macron can provide the troops, question is when. Waiting for it is like waiting for the george rr martin’s books to finish.

    Anyways cant they send the french foreign legions?

11. It’s doable, but at the cost of Europe in effect moving permanently to a war economy, and an even bigger cost/sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of young men.

    It will also take years to achieve this ‘victory’ by which time Putin will probably have died or retired.

    Would it not be better to encourage Ukraine to agree a peace deal with Russia along the lines of the one they were considering signing in May 2022, the build a path for Russia to become in time (ie after Putin is gone) a partner with Europe rather than a security adversary?