Sounds like they need to CPO the land for that existing greenway as well so, thanks for the heads up farmers!
Could they not just pay them a heap of money, like we all agree it’s a good amenity and a few hundred k is a drop in the ocean in terms of public finances, would keep the farmers and the users happy.
At some point politicians will realise that the vast majority of the county aren’t farmers or owners and that they want amities. And just to get in before but we need food! crowd taking a small slice of most likely unproductive land will make no difference at all just look at Europe and their bike and hiking routes and high agricultural productivity.
We spend too long tip toeing around a small number of landowners. CPO the land, build the public amenity, and less of the prostrating. We should do the same on our mountains and build paths.
If I am remembering properly their have been issues with farmers on other Greenways. The famers applied for squatters rights on old railway lines and took over the land. A lot of this was only discovered when they started working on the Greenways and the farmers started objecting to the Greenways being on their land. The land they had gotten through squatting.
I am not saying that this is the case case here.
But it really posses me off.
The new green way to murrisk is badly planned, it does not run adjacent to the road like the greenaway to achill which was built with support of farmers but runs much higher up and in some cases cut fields in half.
We definitely should have the green way but better planning is needed.
It should be NOT be CPO’ed.
Like everything else it will be washed out and grown over in 20 years.
The land will be dead and useless.
You’re all to young to see the repeating pattern of tennis count, Squash courts, swimming pools, amusement parks etc etc.
You all think “Well I WOULD cycle everyday but there’s nowhere to do it :-(“.
No, you will do exactly as you do now after trying it for a day.
This stuff should be automatically CPOd. It’s national infrastructure, and we dick around far too long asking land owners for favours.
If they were building a road, they wouldn’t pay a moment’s attention to what the farm owners thought of the route
The IFA are almost akin to the NRA in the US from a political influence perspective
This kind of brinkmanship always happens during the CPO process. The farmers will happily sell their land, they’re just trying to push up the price. Don’t take any of it too seriously
While I do feel majority of commentators here these days are in no way genuine or are bots or bad actors this is such a stereotypical thing for this sub to get angry about. At the end of the day you have a right to the land you own, our history is full of people that have given their lives for that right, so taking working farmland by force and throwing a pittance at the farmer who works the land for a greenway is ridiculous. There are many great wild spaces to get out and enjoy the beauty of this country I have never understood why people seem to think they need hundreds of kilometres of tarmac to enjoy Ireland.
There’s no old railway where they want to build this new Greenway and it seems like 100% of land owners on the proposed route are against it.
It’s probably much easier create a Greenway when it’s on the route of an old railway, building something where there was no previous seems a lot more difficult if it’s possible at all.
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Take 20% the price from the CPO for every threat.
Sounds like they need to CPO the land for that existing greenway as well so, thanks for the heads up farmers!
Could they not just pay them a heap of money, like we all agree it’s a good amenity and a few hundred k is a drop in the ocean in terms of public finances, would keep the farmers and the users happy.
At some point politicians will realise that the vast majority of the county aren’t farmers or owners and that they want amities. And just to get in before but we need food! crowd taking a small slice of most likely unproductive land will make no difference at all just look at Europe and their bike and hiking routes and high agricultural productivity.
We spend too long tip toeing around a small number of landowners. CPO the land, build the public amenity, and less of the prostrating. We should do the same on our mountains and build paths.
If I am remembering properly their have been issues with farmers on other Greenways. The famers applied for squatters rights on old railway lines and took over the land. A lot of this was only discovered when they started working on the Greenways and the farmers started objecting to the Greenways being on their land. The land they had gotten through squatting.
I am not saying that this is the case case here.
But it really posses me off.
The new green way to murrisk is badly planned, it does not run adjacent to the road like the greenaway to achill which was built with support of farmers but runs much higher up and in some cases cut fields in half.
We definitely should have the green way but better planning is needed.
It should be NOT be CPO’ed.
Like everything else it will be washed out and grown over in 20 years.
The land will be dead and useless.
You’re all to young to see the repeating pattern of tennis count, Squash courts, swimming pools, amusement parks etc etc.
You all think “Well I WOULD cycle everyday but there’s nowhere to do it :-(“.
No, you will do exactly as you do now after trying it for a day.
This stuff should be automatically CPOd. It’s national infrastructure, and we dick around far too long asking land owners for favours.
If they were building a road, they wouldn’t pay a moment’s attention to what the farm owners thought of the route
The IFA are almost akin to the NRA in the US from a political influence perspective
This kind of brinkmanship always happens during the CPO process. The farmers will happily sell their land, they’re just trying to push up the price. Don’t take any of it too seriously
While I do feel majority of commentators here these days are in no way genuine or are bots or bad actors this is such a stereotypical thing for this sub to get angry about. At the end of the day you have a right to the land you own, our history is full of people that have given their lives for that right, so taking working farmland by force and throwing a pittance at the farmer who works the land for a greenway is ridiculous. There are many great wild spaces to get out and enjoy the beauty of this country I have never understood why people seem to think they need hundreds of kilometres of tarmac to enjoy Ireland.
There’s no old railway where they want to build this new Greenway and it seems like 100% of land owners on the proposed route are against it.
It’s probably much easier create a Greenway when it’s on the route of an old railway, building something where there was no previous seems a lot more difficult if it’s possible at all.