NYC says half of those arrested at 2 pro-Palestinian campus protests were not students

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/04/1249188864/nyc-columbia-city-college-gaza-protests-palestinian-campus

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  1. In regards to Columbia. In a city of 8 million, a borough of 1 million, 250k people within a 12 minute subway ride, and 32k people within a five minute walk from campus it shouldn’t surprise anyone that people not directly affiliated with the university are going to the one sustained protest in the city. The fact that it was only half is shocking. If this was in the middle of nowhere yeah that would be strange.

  4. I remember when I was college there would be people who definitely weren’t students protesting homosexuality and feminism. You don’t have to be a student to protest on campus.

  5. If you’re not a student, and you haven’t been invited onto campus by the university, I see no issue with the university making you leave.

  6. These protests are as organic as the Tea Party movement. Watching kids chant Hamas slogans and cosplay as Islamic militants is sickening. Seriously, why are these young feminists students putting on hijab and donning the trappings of sharia? Their counterparts in Iran are fighting to be free of Islamic oppression and these privileged Americans are celebrating religious misogyny? I guess they worship the Patriarchy after all.

    It’s heartening to know their numbers are small and their support is tepid.

  7. The number of organizers who are students likely even less.

  8. Yeah usually protesting for what is right can be be organic

  9. This sub is wild – a week ago anyone who remotely mentioned the possibility of outsiders influencing the on-campus protests were seeing themselves downvoted into oblivion.

    Edit: and so it begins.. cognitive dissonance is so cool to witness!

  10. Yeah, from all reports there are way more non-student protesters than actual student protesters. Probably why the universities are claiming that these protesters are trespassing.

  11. Same media smear during the civil rights movement student protest and anti war protests on colleges. Students organize and ask anyone who want to protest to join them. People who aren’t students are going to be the ones overwhelmingly officially arrested after they are detained, a trespassing charge makes other chargers easier to pursue.

  12. Maybe the white American women wearing keffiyeh should bounce on over to the Middle East and speak their mind about and protest there.

  13. Interesting… and how many of the counter protesters weren’t students?

  14. So that means they arrested a lot of students? Seems pretty oppressive

  15. Same here in Portland at PSU, but it was much more than half.

  16. i don’t get why this is surprising? lots of people come out to support popular protest movements. lots of college kids come to support their friends. like – no shit

  18. That the numbers for City College are for people both on and off campus mixed together, that already makes this claim questionable.

  20. Where are all of you “they’re clearly older/non-traditional students” people from the other day? 

  22. So… did they give anyone the information required the verify this claim?

    Remember when the Deputy Chief of police went on TV to claim that a bike lock that could be purchased on campus was an “industrial chain” brought by “skilled infiltrators”.

    How often does law enforcement have to lie before we stop taking what they say as true? NPR has not verified these claims.

  23. This is a bizarre new spin by the police. Here’s the essence of the reliability of this statistic from the article:
    >the city worked with school officials who determined affiliation with Columbia or CCNY using their mugshots

    The absurdity of taking anything the NYC police say at face value is staggering

  24. what difference does it make whether or not they were students?

  25. People are high if they think college students are going to spend their summer protesting something that doesn’t directly affect them.

    This isn’t Vietnam. They aren’t being drafted.

  26. I mean, I listened to “Deputy Commissioner of Public Information at NYPD” that allegedly has 20 years of experience tell Morning Joe that a bike lock sold at Columbia was not something students bring to the school, because he brought it in as a prop.

  27. Wow shock, it’s almost like the fact protests all over the country have the exact same tents and signs wasn’t a sign someone is bank rolling these “protests”

  29. The unspoken undercurrent is: a lot of this is driven by Communists.
    No exaggeration. These are actual Marxist-Leninist Communists, by another name,
    that are using Gaza for their own ends.

    _Look at their placards._ All the larger, professionally-made signs have a URL for communist organizations.
    There’s been no media coverage (much less blowback) about the backers of these rallies. They arent hiding their affiliations,
    putting these websites at the bottom of all the placards:

    **workers.org** ([Workers World Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_World_Party), formerly [Socialist Workers Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(United_States)), formerly [Communist Party USA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USA))
    **pslweb.org** ([Party for Socialism and Liberation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation), formerly Workers World Party)
    **answercoalition.org** ([ANSWER](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.N.S.W.E.R.) or International ANSWER or ANSWER Coalition)

    And they arent just “pro-Palestinian”. They are pro-Russia, pro-Iran, pro-Houthi, pro-Syria, pro-North Korea. Yes, Pro- _North_ Korea. And ANTI-Ukraine, ANTI-Nato.

  31. Oh the classic “outside agitators” anti-solidarity propaganda. First time?

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