Germany Vows to Defend Baltic Nations in Event of Russian Attack
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-06/germany-vows-to-defend-baltic-nations-in-event-of-russian-attack?leadSource=reddit_wall
by OkLawfulness5555
Germany Vows to Defend Baltic Nations in Event of Russian Attack
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-06/germany-vows-to-defend-baltic-nations-in-event-of-russian-attack?leadSource=reddit_wall
by OkLawfulness5555
22 comments
with what exactly? bratwursts and lager?
I think this goes for all EU Member States, except, of course, Hungary. Because Hungary will never help another Member State, unless Hungary gets something in return. But in the case of a Russian attack, Hungary will not help under any circumstances. Orban is too far up Putin’s ass for that.
But I have no doubt the decent part of the EU will do the same in the event of a Russian attack. It’s also in line with Article 42(7) TEU. And, of course, Article 5 of the NATO Treaty.
Pfff. My mom also promised to defend me against bullying, but after five years of being beat up almost every day in Germany for being a part of “the canadian occupiers” and then another eight years of being beat up almost ever day at canadian schools and uni for being “the german from every WWII movie”, I reserve a small amount of scepticism on this statement by Germany.
When I served in Afghanistan with the german army (I got drafted from Canada and then they saw I speak three languages), my unit knowingly handed over people to be tortured by afghan NDS against all treaties that germany signed against aiding and abetting torture. Then we watched a bunch of cops die at Pul-i-Charki jail uprising in 2014, because “the modern german soldier does not fight” according to SPD chancellor Schröder. Guess what party chancellor Scholz is from…
I’ll believe Germany standing up to bullies when I see them fighting and dying to stand up against bullies. Until then, I won’t believe a word of these token gestures. I keep watching year for year, but year for year we keep waiting for serious help by the germans…
I’m sorry Germany, but I highly doubt you are capable of doing that.
Even assuming that Germany delivers on that promise, the threshold for effective deterrence is higher now.
“Germany vows to defend” – is basically a promise to inflict significant casualties to attacking Russian forces. After losing hundreds of thousands people already losing a fraction of that is not enough to deter Russia.
fun times to be alive
Yeah sure, but I don’t really know what we’re gonna field as a defense. Hardware acquisition is fucking us over badly and doesn’t seem like we’re reforming that anytime soon
Maybe I’m out of the loop, but as a NATO member, it would be obligated to do that anyways given that the Baltics are all part of NATO.
Yeah, they will send helmets… Just like they did to Ukraine.
That’s NATO…..? What is the point here?
With what army? Germany is understaffed, under equipped and has no appetite for war.
That’s all fine, but the attack won’t come unless Russia is provoked as they were in the past. How likely that is lies solely on EU/Nato.
Good. But also: how, seeing the state of the German army.
With what military?
I’m curious, many people say or boast that Germany or Lithuania or Poland or whoever will defend. You do realize that the number of this regular army won’t solve anything, right? Because in this clash, the regular army will run out in half a year to a year. Russia is organized quite differently, it would rather mobilize 5,000,000 men than allow itself to lose. Specifically are you willing to leave your family behind and go under mortar and artillery attacks? Sitting in a trench in minus 10 degrees. If necessary to walk 30 kilometers in body armor and uniforms, because the vehicles can’t get close to the front safely. I just wonder if the corrupt Ukrainian government is worth it?
Germany couldn’t even defend itself but sure, enjoy that power fantasy while you still can.
thesame way they defended ukraine ?
I think they accidentally already made that promise by joining NATO.
Yeah, that’s what that treaty they signed in 1955 said.
Alternative title; Germany does everything in its power to go 3 for 3 in the world war trilogy
Did I miss something, is Russia planning to attack a Baltic country?
Not sure how much Germany can do as it isn’t really a military powerhouse anymore