It’s called “slating”..a horrible practice where you talk shit to an opposing player to put them off their game. It happens in other sports too..see Zidane nutting Materazzi but it’s pretty common in GAA too. So common the D’Unbelievables even had a sketch about it..”You pull hard into him, you insult his mother, his father, you insult every last generation of his family, he hits you, you hit the ground, he gets the side line, we get the free in, 15 men down to 14, c’mon lads !!!”. I’ve seen lads having their wife’s miscarriage being brought up on the field and even sexual abuse being brought up and calling a lad “queer” because of it. It really needs to be made a sending off offence.
Manager of our local GAA team spends half of matches calling the opposition “f***ots” in front of all the children, lovely stuff…
Edit: not sure why this is getting downvoted
Very common. Always been a thing for southerners to give Northern counties abuse. There’s also a stereotype that Ulster supporters like to start fights, which has no basis in reality from any matches I’ve been to.
It’s not just rural
How the fuck is Banagher Protestant? Isn’t that Offaly?
As black lad who grew up in rural Ireland, yes. It usually isn’t as blatant as that but I could write a book on some of the shite I had to deal with growing up.
The unfortunate thing here in Ireland is that Racism is looked as an American problem and that us minorities should hush and be grateful to here.
Plus there’s a certain dim view held of our countrymen up north.
Sam Maguire was a Protestant
Somewhat surprised to learn how common it is from other posts here. I played GAA for a Protestant school, never came across any attitude at matches.
Galway the worst for it…in my experience. Disgusting.
Well I was at the Wexford and Kilkenny match in Wexford park Saturday. There was a guy behind me who was openly being racist. He said a load of racist things about Poles because he mistakenly believed Ashling Murphy’s killer was Polish.
I was kind of shocked tbh, he said it without a hint of shame and wasn’t even trying to be quiet. I’m sure everyone around him heard and not just me. It was fairly brazen which makes me think the guy doesn’t get called out a lot and it’s probably just accepted.
What do you mean rural Ireland? Urban Ireland can act just like this if not worse sometimes.
I always feel there’s a lot of classism towards the north as well with the feeling that a lot of the (mostly Catholic) Northern Teams are poorer/less educated etc..
It’s as if people don’t seem to think the fact they lived in a place where they were 2nd class citizens as a reason they were poorer.
Going back to the late 90’s here but don’t doubt it still goes on..
Alexa, give me an example of the effects of Post-Colonialism and partition by the imperial power
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This attitude is in no way whatsoever representative of the attitudes of rural Ireland towards Ulster GAA sides. Not one tiny bit, whatsoever.
What I have heard of is sledging.This is a real thing. It’s where a player on the field will say just about anything to his opposite number (about his mother, about his sister, whatever) in order to provoke a response. What she’s alleging would fit into that catagory if it’s true. But I’d want to hear the allegation repeated by who was on the field, and not some randomer on Twitter, before I’d take it seriously.
Been called a ‘Brit’ more times than I can remember by people from the 26 counties. Boils my blood.
I’m sure they don’t consider Ireland to have 26 counties – so why give such shite to fellow countrymen and women in the other 6?
Back in my college days, a flatmate played for the college GAA team was told “fuck off back to the bogs”… by the ref. (Player was from a rural area, so guess that’s what he was referring to?)
Heard sledging stories in rugby too, players mocking others’ children etc. For all the stuff about respect in the sport and not bringing anything off the pitch once the whistle goes; then you shouldn’t be bringing private details onto the pitch either.
Seems especially stupid/ironic because the players on NI teams are much more likely to be catholic. Hopefully they lose at the next stage, simply from the fact that *some* of their fans are hateful retarded cunts.
Derry fans get the Protestant thing a lot being the only team fron the north playing in the LOI.
Years ago my husband then boyfriend was a soccer ref in the midlands. We often had to leave my local nightclub because we knew he was about to be assaulted as lads squared up to him about a previous match. He was even escorted off the pitch by guards when a massive fight happened. I’d say only got a fraction of the abuse people with a foreign name/look get.
Some of shite being said about Tyrone leading up to the final echoes that attitude. Not so much blatant sectarianism but partitionism. “They’re not real GAA” “they’re not Irish” yada yada
Ironically the Ulster lads will likely be more “Irish” than their opponents, having had to fight for and maintain their identity in a colonised part of the island for longer.
People forget that the Pale and around Cork were the real Anglo parts of the island. Ulster was planted because of how stubbornly irish it really was.
The ones who left were Englishmen.
They knew the reasons fine well why they couldnt stay in ireland.
Because they acted like complete gowls to the locals when they were here and now people could retaliate and they didnt have westminster backing them up.
There were and still are plenty of protestant households in ireland today with long established roots back beyond the handover and they had no problem
The ones who left were going home.
The racism isn’t too common, calling people prods and going for le epic IRA bants and the like? Fairly common among the dopes and youths. /r/Ireland quite enjoys the latter, in fact for any sort of problem or negative thing that happens in Ireland or even personally to a user here at some point the Brits will be blamed.
Since there’s a bit of confusion here, black in this context means Protestant. It has nothing to do with skin colour
I can’t believe people still give a shit about wether you’re Catholic or Protestant.
I’m protestant and grew up in Dublin. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve been ridiculed and bullied over it under the guise of a “bit of banter”.
And to be told that I need a thicker skin and it’s jUsT a jOkE pisses me off. Bigotry is still alive and well in this country
That’s an absolute disgrace. Narrow minded idiots. No many people like that in this country.
Ireland really needs to talk about the alienation of it’s protestant population. A young lad in Cavan committed suicide last year after years of being bullied in school for having a “Protestant” surname. Protestants are treated as though they are somehow foreign or less than Irish. This by hypocrites who couldn’t give a toss about their own supposed Catholicism. I’m an Irish republican and from an old Gaelic family with roots going back deep into the history of this country yet as a Protestant I am regarded as a foreigner or traitor by some.
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Depends on who you’re dealing with. Can be the same in cities as well.
Shit like that can be common anywhere, you can get them in rural areas or cities or whatever. Its impossible to generalise something that broad.
Living in a rural area myself I havent really found that much of it.
Living on a border county, I’ve seen this in action in the Ulster League’s over the years.
Should be zero tolerance. County board need to shut it down.
Same shite in this case, I can’t get my head around it.
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2022/0118/1274478-eden-heaslip-cavan-bullying/
It’s called “slating”..a horrible practice where you talk shit to an opposing player to put them off their game. It happens in other sports too..see Zidane nutting Materazzi but it’s pretty common in GAA too. So common the D’Unbelievables even had a sketch about it..”You pull hard into him, you insult his mother, his father, you insult every last generation of his family, he hits you, you hit the ground, he gets the side line, we get the free in, 15 men down to 14, c’mon lads !!!”. I’ve seen lads having their wife’s miscarriage being brought up on the field and even sexual abuse being brought up and calling a lad “queer” because of it. It really needs to be made a sending off offence.
Manager of our local GAA team spends half of matches calling the opposition “f***ots” in front of all the children, lovely stuff…
Edit: not sure why this is getting downvoted
Very common. Always been a thing for southerners to give Northern counties abuse. There’s also a stereotype that Ulster supporters like to start fights, which has no basis in reality from any matches I’ve been to.
It’s not just rural
How the fuck is Banagher Protestant? Isn’t that Offaly?
As black lad who grew up in rural Ireland, yes. It usually isn’t as blatant as that but I could write a book on some of the shite I had to deal with growing up.
The unfortunate thing here in Ireland is that Racism is looked as an American problem and that us minorities should hush and be grateful to here.
Plus there’s a certain dim view held of our countrymen up north.
Sam Maguire was a Protestant
Somewhat surprised to learn how common it is from other posts here. I played GAA for a Protestant school, never came across any attitude at matches.
Galway the worst for it…in my experience. Disgusting.
Well I was at the Wexford and Kilkenny match in Wexford park Saturday. There was a guy behind me who was openly being racist. He said a load of racist things about Poles because he mistakenly believed Ashling Murphy’s killer was Polish.
I was kind of shocked tbh, he said it without a hint of shame and wasn’t even trying to be quiet. I’m sure everyone around him heard and not just me. It was fairly brazen which makes me think the guy doesn’t get called out a lot and it’s probably just accepted.
What do you mean rural Ireland? Urban Ireland can act just like this if not worse sometimes.
I always feel there’s a lot of classism towards the north as well with the feeling that a lot of the (mostly Catholic) Northern Teams are poorer/less educated etc..
It’s as if people don’t seem to think the fact they lived in a place where they were 2nd class citizens as a reason they were poorer.
Going back to the late 90’s here but don’t doubt it still goes on..
Alexa, give me an example of the effects of Post-Colonialism and partition by the imperial power
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This attitude is in no way whatsoever representative of the attitudes of rural Ireland towards Ulster GAA sides. Not one tiny bit, whatsoever.
What I have heard of is sledging.This is a real thing. It’s where a player on the field will say just about anything to his opposite number (about his mother, about his sister, whatever) in order to provoke a response. What she’s alleging would fit into that catagory if it’s true. But I’d want to hear the allegation repeated by who was on the field, and not some randomer on Twitter, before I’d take it seriously.
Been called a ‘Brit’ more times than I can remember by people from the 26 counties. Boils my blood.
I’m sure they don’t consider Ireland to have 26 counties – so why give such shite to fellow countrymen and women in the other 6?
Back in my college days, a flatmate played for the college GAA team was told “fuck off back to the bogs”… by the ref. (Player was from a rural area, so guess that’s what he was referring to?)
Heard sledging stories in rugby too, players mocking others’ children etc. For all the stuff about respect in the sport and not bringing anything off the pitch once the whistle goes; then you shouldn’t be bringing private details onto the pitch either.
Seems especially stupid/ironic because the players on NI teams are much more likely to be catholic. Hopefully they lose at the next stage, simply from the fact that *some* of their fans are hateful retarded cunts.
Derry fans get the Protestant thing a lot being the only team fron the north playing in the LOI.
Years ago my husband then boyfriend was a soccer ref in the midlands. We often had to leave my local nightclub because we knew he was about to be assaulted as lads squared up to him about a previous match. He was even escorted off the pitch by guards when a massive fight happened. I’d say only got a fraction of the abuse people with a foreign name/look get.
Some of shite being said about Tyrone leading up to the final echoes that attitude. Not so much blatant sectarianism but partitionism. “They’re not real GAA” “they’re not Irish” yada yada
Ironically the Ulster lads will likely be more “Irish” than their opponents, having had to fight for and maintain their identity in a colonised part of the island for longer.
People forget that the Pale and around Cork were the real Anglo parts of the island. Ulster was planted because of how stubbornly irish it really was.
The ones who left were Englishmen.
They knew the reasons fine well why they couldnt stay in ireland.
Because they acted like complete gowls to the locals when they were here and now people could retaliate and they didnt have westminster backing them up.
There were and still are plenty of protestant households in ireland today with long established roots back beyond the handover and they had no problem
The ones who left were going home.
The racism isn’t too common, calling people prods and going for le epic IRA bants and the like? Fairly common among the dopes and youths. /r/Ireland quite enjoys the latter, in fact for any sort of problem or negative thing that happens in Ireland or even personally to a user here at some point the Brits will be blamed.
Since there’s a bit of confusion here, black in this context means Protestant. It has nothing to do with skin colour
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_North
I can’t believe people still give a shit about wether you’re Catholic or Protestant.
I’m protestant and grew up in Dublin. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve been ridiculed and bullied over it under the guise of a “bit of banter”.
And to be told that I need a thicker skin and it’s jUsT a jOkE pisses me off. Bigotry is still alive and well in this country
That’s an absolute disgrace. Narrow minded idiots. No many people like that in this country.
Ireland really needs to talk about the alienation of it’s protestant population. A young lad in Cavan committed suicide last year after years of being bullied in school for having a “Protestant” surname. Protestants are treated as though they are somehow foreign or less than Irish. This by hypocrites who couldn’t give a toss about their own supposed Catholicism. I’m an Irish republican and from an old Gaelic family with roots going back deep into the history of this country yet as a Protestant I am regarded as a foreigner or traitor by some.