>strip-searching her for her own safety because she would not give them her name.
>Duff was arrested on 5 May 2013 on suspicion of obstructing and assaulting police after trying to hand a legal advice card to a 15-year-old caught in a stop-and-search sweep in Hackney – allegations she was later cleared of in court.
Yeah, it’s just the language they used they should be apologising for, basically sexually assaulting for not giving her name is the kind of behaviour to commended for in the good ol’ met!
Just going to add some quotes from the article here in case anyone doesn’t have time to read the article and wants to know how bad it was:
>“What’s that smell? Oh, it’s her knickers,” officers at a north-east London police station said to each other after Dr Konstancja Duff was held down on the floor and her clothes cut off. “Is she rank?” another said.
and
>The CCTV footage now obtained by Duff of the police station custody area on the day she was searched shows Howard telling officers to show her “resistance is futile” and to search her “by any means necessary”. …. “Treat her like a terrorist,” he says. “I don’t care.”
and
>A male officer asks them: “Didn’t find anything untoward on her, ladies?”
>“A lot of hair,” one of the female officers replies. The others laugh.
>About a minute later, as two male officers go through Duff’s possessions, one asks in mock alarm: “Sorry, sorry, what’s that smell?”
>“Oh, it’s her knickers, yeah?” his colleague replies.
>A female officer then returns again from handling Duff. “Ugh, I feel disgusting; I’m going to need a shower,” she says.
>“You need defumigating,” a male officer tells her.
>Another female officer asks her: “Is she rank?”
>“No, she’s not actually,” she says.
>“She is, her clothes stink,” another male officer says.
>“Is it? Her body isn’t,” she replies.
A quote from the victim following the met’s apology:
>Duff said: “In every detail the footage backed up what I had said in my statements for years and years.”
>“There was such a barrage of misinformation that they put out that I actually, even though I was there and I knew that it was false, had almost started to doubt myself,” she said.
>“It was such an effective gaslighting: ‘We were just concerned for your mental health, that was why we had to – for your own good – forcibly strip you naked and mash you up.’
“In a cell, three female officers bound Duff by her hands and feet, pinned her to the floor and cut her clothes off with scissors.”
So the MET apologise for the language but not for physically abusing that poor woman? God these people are fucking scum.
Honestly the Met is just a fucking disgrace right now. It seems after all the cuts of the Cameron era the majority of officers left are either A: Huge pieces of shit or B: Unwilling to speak up against their huge piece of shit colleagues.
I actually think that we need to hire more police officers but there needs to be a complete change of their culture, it’s disgusting and fucking outrageous that absolute fuck heads like this officer are still employed.
And this only 4 years after they cleared those involved of any wrongdoing:
> A Metropolitan police officer who ordered the strip search of an academic, in part because she would not disclose her name while in detention, has been cleared by a disciplinary panel.
Which just goes to show their internal disciplinary process isn’t fit for purpose.
I hope the Police get their act together over the next few years because they have become a burden on society.
The “sexist, derogatory language” is the least of the problems here. From what they’ve described, the Met took offence at her trying to hand a card about his rights to a kid being arrested – something that is not a crime, but presumably they didn’t want him to know his rights. Because she wouldn’t give her name, they decided to rough her up and humiliate her to teach her a lesson. That’s an incredible abuse of power and I find it very hard to believe that such behaviour is legal.
All of these recent stories about the Met leads me to think they should just disband the whole thing. Like the American “defund the police” movements – just accept that the organisation is fundamentally flawed, not fit for purpose and start again under new leadership.
Every officer involved in that shitshow needs the sack.
Jesus wept
and all because she tried to inform some kid of their rights during stop and search? thats some facist crap right there
Let’s face it, people only join the police because it means that they can get away with assault, rape, murder, harassment, bullying, etc.
I said it just recently and I’ll say it again: Anyone who has dealt with the met in almost any capacity is aware that it is essentially a gang. It needs to be totally stripped down and rebuilt but it will never happen.
Absolutely awful. Poor woman. Glad she spoke up, that is not the way I would expect or want officers acting. Awful cretins.
If I was searching someone and someone else handed them a legal advice card I wouldn’t have an issue because my search would be warranted, they fact she was even lifted is systematic of a wider issue. Noone in authority should have any issue with you knowing how their procedures and policies work.
The very fact the argue they did this for her safety as she was vulnerable. So you have several officers taking the piss out of a vulnerable woman in that case.
Fuckers.
Ah even more reason to not trust any of those fuckers. Nothing more than bullies the folks doing nothing about it are just as bad.
Only 7 bad apples. In the same place at the same time by sheer coincidence. Not a rotten culture at all, no sir-ee.
The police force here are awful to be honest. I know there must be good police officers, but the publicity around the bad ones (and this won’t be all of them – just the ones that got caught and then got publicised about) is massively jarring when they’re the people that are here to allegedly protect us.
Every time a story like this comes up, or a story about the police abusing their power comes up, I see and hear comments about how it’s so unlikely, so unusual, that it makes headlines.
Every other week it seems there’s a headline. It’s no longer unusual and these stories are just the ones that have been found out about. It’s the norm. So much so that often I don’t even read the story – I skim over it like other regular headlines. And the times i’ve had interactions with the police have not left a positive feeling with me afterwards.
The police genuinely scare me these days.
Dick really needs to go – she has zero credibility.
They need somebody new to lead who can effect real change throughout the organisation – and not some clone replacement – keeping her on basically says – fuck you all.
This all went on under her watch and I have no doubt she’s known about this case for years.
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This is horrific and I truly feel sorry for this victim. These things prevent crimes being tackled as so many people fear the police for good reasons.
Can the Met even make it a week without another controversy like this or another officer being investigated for sex crimes? Cressida Dick should not be allowed to continue as leader and there needs to be a mass clear-out of officers if the rot is this bad. The public are not going to trust the police at all by summer if things continue like this at this rate. As with politics, it seems that anyone who might actually be a good, honest officer is being driven out by all the cunts.
Oh Lord don’t read the article what actually happened was much worse than I could have imagined, horrifying and quite frankly evil.
This isn’t justice.
This is what the legal system will allow her to get. The bare minimum.
Justice would be those police officers behind bars.
The piece is not great, but the events are shocking (though not, I suppose, to someone with a less comfortable existence than mine).
How long before the “it’s just a few bad apples” brigade finally STFU?
Police being bullied at school is as old as the hills. These people seek out power over thier fellow citizens.
Can’t say i’m suprised to see half of them act like total cunts.
My only school friend I which joined the force (yes, you Henry) was bullied mercilessly. I don’t condone bullying, but after seeing him in action.. it’s a case of the bullied becoming the bully.
Their justification for a strip search was because they were concerned for her safety and mental health. They do have a legal duty of care, but I am surprised at the implication that forcible restraint, and a forced strip search is part of assessing someone’s mental health, especially when there was no time pressure, they could have watched her and called a doctor. Alternatively, maybe they just wanted to strip search her in order to punish her.
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>strip-searching her for her own safety because she would not give them her name.
>Duff was arrested on 5 May 2013 on suspicion of obstructing and assaulting police after trying to hand a legal advice card to a 15-year-old caught in a stop-and-search sweep in Hackney – allegations she was later cleared of in court.
Yeah, it’s just the language they used they should be apologising for, basically sexually assaulting for not giving her name is the kind of behaviour to commended for in the good ol’ met!
Just going to add some quotes from the article here in case anyone doesn’t have time to read the article and wants to know how bad it was:
>“What’s that smell? Oh, it’s her knickers,” officers at a north-east London police station said to each other after Dr Konstancja Duff was held down on the floor and her clothes cut off. “Is she rank?” another said.
and
>The CCTV footage now obtained by Duff of the police station custody area on the day she was searched shows Howard telling officers to show her “resistance is futile” and to search her “by any means necessary”. …. “Treat her like a terrorist,” he says. “I don’t care.”
and
>A male officer asks them: “Didn’t find anything untoward on her, ladies?”
>“A lot of hair,” one of the female officers replies. The others laugh.
>About a minute later, as two male officers go through Duff’s possessions, one asks in mock alarm: “Sorry, sorry, what’s that smell?”
>“Oh, it’s her knickers, yeah?” his colleague replies.
>A female officer then returns again from handling Duff. “Ugh, I feel disgusting; I’m going to need a shower,” she says.
>“You need defumigating,” a male officer tells her.
>Another female officer asks her: “Is she rank?”
>“No, she’s not actually,” she says.
>“She is, her clothes stink,” another male officer says.
>“Is it? Her body isn’t,” she replies.
A quote from the victim following the met’s apology:
>Duff said: “In every detail the footage backed up what I had said in my statements for years and years.”
>“There was such a barrage of misinformation that they put out that I actually, even though I was there and I knew that it was false, had almost started to doubt myself,” she said.
>“It was such an effective gaslighting: ‘We were just concerned for your mental health, that was why we had to – for your own good – forcibly strip you naked and mash you up.’
“In a cell, three female officers bound Duff by her hands and feet, pinned her to the floor and cut her clothes off with scissors.”
So the MET apologise for the language but not for physically abusing that poor woman? God these people are fucking scum.
Honestly the Met is just a fucking disgrace right now. It seems after all the cuts of the Cameron era the majority of officers left are either A: Huge pieces of shit or B: Unwilling to speak up against their huge piece of shit colleagues.
I actually think that we need to hire more police officers but there needs to be a complete change of their culture, it’s disgusting and fucking outrageous that absolute fuck heads like this officer are still employed.
And this only 4 years after they cleared those involved of any wrongdoing:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/30/konstancja-duff-kurtis-howard-met-police-sergeant-cleared-misconduct-over-strip-search-academic
> A Metropolitan police officer who ordered the strip search of an academic, in part because she would not disclose her name while in detention, has been cleared by a disciplinary panel.
Which just goes to show their internal disciplinary process isn’t fit for purpose.
I hope the Police get their act together over the next few years because they have become a burden on society.
The “sexist, derogatory language” is the least of the problems here. From what they’ve described, the Met took offence at her trying to hand a card about his rights to a kid being arrested – something that is not a crime, but presumably they didn’t want him to know his rights. Because she wouldn’t give her name, they decided to rough her up and humiliate her to teach her a lesson. That’s an incredible abuse of power and I find it very hard to believe that such behaviour is legal.
All of these recent stories about the Met leads me to think they should just disband the whole thing. Like the American “defund the police” movements – just accept that the organisation is fundamentally flawed, not fit for purpose and start again under new leadership.
Every officer involved in that shitshow needs the sack.
Jesus wept
and all because she tried to inform some kid of their rights during stop and search? thats some facist crap right there
Let’s face it, people only join the police because it means that they can get away with assault, rape, murder, harassment, bullying, etc.
I said it just recently and I’ll say it again: Anyone who has dealt with the met in almost any capacity is aware that it is essentially a gang. It needs to be totally stripped down and rebuilt but it will never happen.
Absolutely awful. Poor woman. Glad she spoke up, that is not the way I would expect or want officers acting. Awful cretins.
If I was searching someone and someone else handed them a legal advice card I wouldn’t have an issue because my search would be warranted, they fact she was even lifted is systematic of a wider issue. Noone in authority should have any issue with you knowing how their procedures and policies work.
The very fact the argue they did this for her safety as she was vulnerable. So you have several officers taking the piss out of a vulnerable woman in that case.
Fuckers.
Ah even more reason to not trust any of those fuckers. Nothing more than bullies the folks doing nothing about it are just as bad.
Only 7 bad apples. In the same place at the same time by sheer coincidence. Not a rotten culture at all, no sir-ee.
The police force here are awful to be honest. I know there must be good police officers, but the publicity around the bad ones (and this won’t be all of them – just the ones that got caught and then got publicised about) is massively jarring when they’re the people that are here to allegedly protect us.
Every time a story like this comes up, or a story about the police abusing their power comes up, I see and hear comments about how it’s so unlikely, so unusual, that it makes headlines.
Every other week it seems there’s a headline. It’s no longer unusual and these stories are just the ones that have been found out about. It’s the norm. So much so that often I don’t even read the story – I skim over it like other regular headlines. And the times i’ve had interactions with the police have not left a positive feeling with me afterwards.
The police genuinely scare me these days.
Dick really needs to go – she has zero credibility.
They need somebody new to lead who can effect real change throughout the organisation – and not some clone replacement – keeping her on basically says – fuck you all.
This all went on under her watch and I have no doubt she’s known about this case for years.
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This is horrific and I truly feel sorry for this victim. These things prevent crimes being tackled as so many people fear the police for good reasons.
Can the Met even make it a week without another controversy like this or another officer being investigated for sex crimes? Cressida Dick should not be allowed to continue as leader and there needs to be a mass clear-out of officers if the rot is this bad. The public are not going to trust the police at all by summer if things continue like this at this rate. As with politics, it seems that anyone who might actually be a good, honest officer is being driven out by all the cunts.
Oh Lord don’t read the article what actually happened was much worse than I could have imagined, horrifying and quite frankly evil.
This isn’t justice.
This is what the legal system will allow her to get. The bare minimum.
Justice would be those police officers behind bars.
The piece is not great, but the events are shocking (though not, I suppose, to someone with a less comfortable existence than mine).
How long before the “it’s just a few bad apples” brigade finally STFU?
Police being bullied at school is as old as the hills. These people seek out power over thier fellow citizens.
Can’t say i’m suprised to see half of them act like total cunts.
My only school friend I which joined the force (yes, you Henry) was bullied mercilessly. I don’t condone bullying, but after seeing him in action.. it’s a case of the bullied becoming the bully.
Their justification for a strip search was because they were concerned for her safety and mental health. They do have a legal duty of care, but I am surprised at the implication that forcible restraint, and a forced strip search is part of assessing someone’s mental health, especially when there was no time pressure, they could have watched her and called a doctor. Alternatively, maybe they just wanted to strip search her in order to punish her.