Just to let you know the latest BBC reporting, which paints a somewhat disturbing picture and is about as negative as I have seen for a while.
Recognising that of course the Ukranians cannot be everywhere, there should be more focus on how the lack of western supply is more to blame than preparation of defences, although that should be recognised too. Russia is on a war footing whilst our western economies are more worried about elections and Israel. Anyway, here it is.
If this is true – then there is huge problem in UKR military and coming months are going to be super hard.
Ukraine had 1+ year if not longer to mine everything there – like every few meters – there should have be mines and traps of all sorts.
1000+ people (not even active military people are need it for this) could have do shit a lot of work for 1+ year doing the work daily.
I hope soon it will be clear what is happening here so far looks like cluster fuck from UKR side.
The situation kinda reminds me of when for the first time Russian Legion has started doing incursions inside Belgorod oblast.
It took a lot of time for the orcs to react and get them out and right now it might become the same for the Ukrainians as they might have to pull some troops from the south to reinforce Kharkiv.
This would be damaging to a lot of reputations
“Drowning – is a work of drowners themselves…” There are no magic aid from the west to win this if our people doing everything to lose it.
This is terrible news… that there were no barriers or minefields at all.
Are you guys fucking morons? This a bullshit article and anyone with a brain would understand why it’s bullshit.
You can’t build fortifications near the border during a war when you are in artillery,glide bombs and drone range. Ruzzia has the same problem. The areas near the borders are more like buffer zones where you can’t build shit without getting detected and blasted. The defence lines are further back.
Some heads are about to roll, that’s for sure. Unfortunately people will die because of some corrupted fuckers.
Reality is , Ukraine needs to go to full war time economy , and conscription.
All civil projects need to be dedicated to defense and they hope that the two years before their country is in ruins is enough to hurt Russia more.
Currently their country is being destroyed , critical infrastructure getting decimated.
It’s happening already and a full response is needed.
Question is, should Ukraine mobilize, like draft all able bodied men, or just keep begging for two missiles here and three APCs there and maybe one fighter plane next year and hope that the hyper-ultra-advanced Western weaponry like 155 mm artillery will just scare away the Russians?
This is why NATO needs to be more involved asap
The article is down now
But no everything is the fault of western aid being too slow, there is large scale incompetence going on within the Ukrainian government/army and until it’s recognised and resolved shit like this will keep happening.
Russia re-captured north territory which is the most terrible news. What did Ukraine did so far?
This is horrible, this is exactly the fuel pro Russian idiots are gonna use. Why support Ukraine when they can’t even dig a trench.
Ukraine’s unwillingness to mobilise men is causing a lot of their problems at the moment. The weapons are coming but they don’t have enough units to manoeuvre around the Russians.
We know the Ukrainians are very good at manoeuvre warfare because we’ve seen them do it before. It seems like they got complacent over the positional warfare period and haven’t constructed enough defensive lines.
Even if they mobilise the men they need tomorrow it will take time to get them into the field fighting. This will be a very difficult Summer and I would not be surprised if the Russians do eventually breakthrough Ukrainian lines.
Is this terrain even defensible or is their line further in?
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I assume the territory immediately at the border cannot be held as Ukraine isn’t allowed to shell Russia with NATO weapons
western intervention will occur. the clock approaches nuclear midnight
There are also the howitzers which can lay minefields ahead of approaching enemy columns, ideally after their scouts have declared the routes clear and open. 🤔 Between those and the ATACMS Cluster Munitions splatting whole areas, it makes approaches very rough.
I don’t blame Denys Yaroslavsky for being so angry.
At the end of the autumn 2022 push by Ukraine (when there was another month’s-long delay in Western arms shipments), Russia wasted no time building layer upon layer of fortified trenches, minefields, and dragon’s teeth.
During that same time Western military officials were publicly pulling out their own hair as to why Ukraine wasn’t doing the same, and now that indecision is coming back to bite them.
Ukraine has had 18 months to fully defend the border with trenches and tank traps etc. What have they been doing exactly?
They letting enter some villages so the atmcs and himars can reach them very simple
Why didn’t the troops have fpv drones?
How the actual f-ck dont they have defense against russian border by now ?
Defense lines are not at the border, but deeper in country
I’m hearing there are mechanized Russian brigades there. My question is, why wasn’t the border mined to hell and back like the Russians did in the south? Also, I thought UA forces had good fortifications in Kharkiv?
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Just to let you know the latest BBC reporting, which paints a somewhat disturbing picture and is about as negative as I have seen for a while.
Recognising that of course the Ukranians cannot be everywhere, there should be more focus on how the lack of western supply is more to blame than preparation of defences, although that should be recognised too. Russia is on a war footing whilst our western economies are more worried about elections and Israel. Anyway, here it is.
If this is true – then there is huge problem in UKR military and coming months are going to be super hard.
Ukraine had 1+ year if not longer to mine everything there – like every few meters – there should have be mines and traps of all sorts.
1000+ people (not even active military people are need it for this) could have do shit a lot of work for 1+ year doing the work daily.
I hope soon it will be clear what is happening here so far looks like cluster fuck from UKR side.
The situation kinda reminds me of when for the first time Russian Legion has started doing incursions inside Belgorod oblast.
It took a lot of time for the orcs to react and get them out and right now it might become the same for the Ukrainians as they might have to pull some troops from the south to reinforce Kharkiv.
This would be damaging to a lot of reputations
“Drowning – is a work of drowners themselves…” There are no magic aid from the west to win this if our people doing everything to lose it.
This is terrible news… that there were no barriers or minefields at all.
Are you guys fucking morons? This a bullshit article and anyone with a brain would understand why it’s bullshit.
You can’t build fortifications near the border during a war when you are in artillery,glide bombs and drone range. Ruzzia has the same problem. The areas near the borders are more like buffer zones where you can’t build shit without getting detected and blasted. The defence lines are further back.
Some heads are about to roll, that’s for sure. Unfortunately people will die because of some corrupted fuckers.
Reality is , Ukraine needs to go to full war time economy , and conscription.
All civil projects need to be dedicated to defense and they hope that the two years before their country is in ruins is enough to hurt Russia more.
Currently their country is being destroyed , critical infrastructure getting decimated.
It’s happening already and a full response is needed.
Question is, should Ukraine mobilize, like draft all able bodied men, or just keep begging for two missiles here and three APCs there and maybe one fighter plane next year and hope that the hyper-ultra-advanced Western weaponry like 155 mm artillery will just scare away the Russians?
This is why NATO needs to be more involved asap
The article is down now
But no everything is the fault of western aid being too slow, there is large scale incompetence going on within the Ukrainian government/army and until it’s recognised and resolved shit like this will keep happening.
Russia re-captured north territory which is the most terrible news. What did Ukraine did so far?
This is horrible, this is exactly the fuel pro Russian idiots are gonna use. Why support Ukraine when they can’t even dig a trench.
Ukraine’s unwillingness to mobilise men is causing a lot of their problems at the moment. The weapons are coming but they don’t have enough units to manoeuvre around the Russians.
We know the Ukrainians are very good at manoeuvre warfare because we’ve seen them do it before. It seems like they got complacent over the positional warfare period and haven’t constructed enough defensive lines.
Even if they mobilise the men they need tomorrow it will take time to get them into the field fighting. This will be a very difficult Summer and I would not be surprised if the Russians do eventually breakthrough Ukrainian lines.
Is this terrain even defensible or is their line further in?
ITT Alot of Russian bots
I assume the territory immediately at the border cannot be held as Ukraine isn’t allowed to shell Russia with NATO weapons
western intervention will occur. the clock approaches nuclear midnight
There are also the howitzers which can lay minefields ahead of approaching enemy columns, ideally after their scouts have declared the routes clear and open. 🤔 Between those and the ATACMS Cluster Munitions splatting whole areas, it makes approaches very rough.
I don’t blame Denys Yaroslavsky for being so angry.
At the end of the autumn 2022 push by Ukraine (when there was another month’s-long delay in Western arms shipments), Russia wasted no time building layer upon layer of fortified trenches, minefields, and dragon’s teeth.
During that same time Western military officials were publicly pulling out their own hair as to why Ukraine wasn’t doing the same, and now that indecision is coming back to bite them.
Ukraine has had 18 months to fully defend the border with trenches and tank traps etc. What have they been doing exactly?
They letting enter some villages so the atmcs and himars can reach them very simple
Why didn’t the troops have fpv drones?
How the actual f-ck dont they have defense against russian border by now ?
Defense lines are not at the border, but deeper in country
I’m hearing there are mechanized Russian brigades there. My question is, why wasn’t the border mined to hell and back like the Russians did in the south? Also, I thought UA forces had good fortifications in Kharkiv?