Die Vereinten Nationen halbieren die Schätzung der in Gaza getöteten Frauen und Kinder

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1. Not saying women and children dying isn’t bad, but why does everyone criticize Israel on this single subject without looking at the big picture? Where’s the criticism for Hamas systematically indoctrinating the population to kill and hate Jews?

2. The UN quietly revised the death toll, noting almost 50% less women and children killed than previously reported, and they take absolutely no accountability when asked for an explanation. They still haven’t acknowledged the early hospital incident that killed nearly 100 civilians was actually caused by an errant rocket fired by Islamic Jihad and they haven’t recognized that Hamas uses U.N. infrastructure for its terror activities.

   > “Parroting Hamas propaganda messages without any verification process has proven time and again as methodologically flawed and unprofessional,” an Israeli official added. “We urge the international community to use more than a grain of salt when evaluating OCHA reports.”

   > U.N. agencies have consistently shown they prefer to trust the numbers coming out of Hamas-controlled sources rather than doing basic due diligence

   >The U.N.’s sudden revision last week of the death toll most likely indicated that “even Hamas-controlled sources have begun admitting that their numbers are based on incomplete data.”

   >”Hamas don’t even have the names of more than 10,000 of the individuals they count as dead”

   The story is also extremely underreported in American press right now. [Fox News](https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-revises-gaza-death-toll-50-less-women-children-killed-previously-reported) seems to be the only major U.S. outlet running the story this morning. Hopefully others catch on.

3. I’m all for more precise numbers, but are we losing the plot a little with the focus on women and children instead of total number killed? 

   It feels like we’re allowing an unspoken assumption that *man=combatant*, which, even if we assume Hamas is massively popular, cannot be entirely right.

4. Obviously children dying in war is an objectively terrible and wrong thing. Having said that, I‘d like to know the age structure of the children. It is not beneath militant terror groups like Hamas to utilize child soldiers.

   Also I still want to know how many civilians had to die because of Hamas disincentivizing and hindering evacuations, after the IDF warned about coming attacks and assaults.

5. Literally nothing about this from the BBC from either their homepage, or the Israel-Gaza page.

6. You know why they’re doing this right? because people figured out they can cross reference the people that are alive and receiving aid and determine MIA/KIA so all these groups got scared they will be exposed for faking numbers and are now back peddling.

7. I don’t think any nation has ever gone to the lengths Israel does to avoid civilian casualties. I applaud their efforts. War is horrible.

8. “under 5,000 women and 8,000 children are now officially listed by the UN as casualties.”

9. I got flamed heavy for asking if any source other than the Hamas-run government sources existed for this data.

   People were so mad at me and, guess what, no one cared that there was only one source for the claims.

   Compare the scale of something like the Ukraine conflict with this. Look at the numbers, look at the amount of people involved. Something never added up.

10. I keep seeing things (from many of my Jewish friends on Instagram who are very progressive) about how Israel kills three women in Gaza every minute and I’m like … that doesn’t even make sense. There is no cyclical woman-killing machine operated by the IDF, and also civilian casualties have plummeted since the conflict began, even with Gaza’s inflated reporting numbers.

11. Moral of the story is: Maybe don’t take information published by terrorist organisations that are known liars as facts.

12. But any numbers of civilian death estimates doesn’t come from Hamas right? They don’t distinguish is my understanding

13. The U.N. is historically anti- semite.Hamas is outright lying about casualty figures,and the U.N. bought the lie.

14. People don’t care about the Middle-East unless it is about Israel. Millions more Arabs have died at the hands of other Arabs nobody went to the streets to protest.

    https://preview.redd.it/total-casualties-of-wars-in-the-middle-east-v0-6xolaarb3jzb1.png

    Yemen is not even in the map but it has been an extremely deadly conflict. Until ships started being attacked, people just shrugged their shoulders.

15. It’s almost like they are guessing.

    That’s still better than the news organizations still quoting the Gaza health ministry’s (Hamas) numbers.

16. Yes, I saw all the mea culpas in all the other subs on Reddit just kidding.