[David Ornstein]-EXCLUSIVE: Premier League clubs to vote on proposal to scrap VAR from next season. Resolution formally submitted by Wolves to abolish system + will be on agenda at June 6 AGM. Any rule change needs 2/3s majority (14 of 20 members) to pass

by DOMISMONEY

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  1. As a Gooner who had to witness not one, but THREE clear cut reasons for a goal to be disallowed in the same passage of play just waived away by VAR, that could potentially now have cost us the title, I say bin it.

    We’ve got the automated offside coming next season, iirc, so don’t even need the incompetent idiots in Stockley Park to draw the lines on the screen using MS Paint anymore. Make it like rugby’s TMOs, or don’t even bother.

  2. The resolution should be simple. VAR should be controlled/managed by a party separate to refs, clubs, and the PGMOL that are actually competent in using the technology

  3. Good good. Still will not make the league worth watching though.

  4. What so we can go back to refs making the wrong decision more frequently and just having to accept it?

  5. Brilliant. Then instead of 10 mistakes we will have 100 and this will solve all problems. Should also abolish cars because there are accidents and go back to just walking.

  6. I think they’ve missed the point of what’s annoying about VAR

  8. I think the consensus is VAR needs to be better rather than VAR needs to be gone right? If referees were making the right calls then VAR wouldn’t even come into it in most instances, by doing this we’re just stuck with that initial mistake

  9. It needs a complete overhaul. Half the issue is that no-one knows whats going on. At least in rugby league you can see what they’re looking at on the screen when they go to the video ref and they make the process part of the game. In football you dont really have a clue what they’re looking at. The other half of the issue is that the people managing the VAR havent a clue and there are way too many mistakes

  10. Don’t scrap VAR, scrap the people running it and PGMOL. It’s basically a cult

  11. I understand people saying VAR isn’t the issue and the refs are. But you’re not going to get rid of refs which is why I assume they targeted VAR. ideally they can implement automatic VAR but that still doesn’t (afaik) account for fouls build up, etc. The issue is that refs are biased (yeah people will argue incompetence) but you see time and time again the same teams getting the benefit of the doubt and a ref officiating a Madrid semi with a Madrid handbag. 

  12. I think if they scrapped it they would only conspire to bring it back again in future. The problem is two fold (a) the standard of refereeing and (b) managers/players/clubs not respecting referees

  13. That just lets PGMOL off the hook for having garbage officials and fighting to keep the “clear and obvious” bullshit.

  15. I think we should keep VAR but put people who have more than 3 brain cells working it

  17. When will ya’ll lesnr VAR isn’t the problem. It’s the incompetent, corrupt humans that run it 🤦

    Also, is the offside technology changing next year to match what they have in UCL?

  18. What’s the point? Next season instead of saying VAR is corrupt/inconsistent people will be saying referees are corrupt/inconsistent.

    The solution is for people to accept that sometimes decisions for for you and sometimes go against you.

  19. Lolll how is the Premier League so so bad at video review? I’m begging them to watch how NFL and NHL handles video reviews & implement the same strategies.

  20. I think they should establish at least one other refereeing body with processes and practices specifically designed to encourage accuracy. Try using that org for some of the games until we get a healthy sample size for comparison. Otherwise we lose the possibility that the problem is actually PGMOL instead of VAR.

  21. I really do feel like Gambling and Football are closely interlinked. Its all corrupt as fuck. Hell they even advertise Gambling websites which you can lose real money on the very same game you are watching on

  22. In principle VAR is great but I don’t understand why it takes them so long to get to a decision. The implementation for the Prem sucks and until they can do it quickly then they need to get rid of it.

    I am also not interested if their toenail was offside. I want to give a bit of benefit of the doubt to the attacker instead of looking at if someone was offside at the quantum scale.

    Pre-VAR it was always annoying when a dodgy on field decision went against you but it was really nice when one went your way. It was also nice to celebrate a bloody goal when the ball goes in rather than have to wait several minutes for the VAR monkey to get out of the toilet.

  23. Thank you Wolves, finally someone has shown the backbone to bring this up.

    I don’t expect it to go anywhere but even if it leads to more specific criteria before it’s used, that will improve things. You can be too right/literal and VAR is the epitome of that.

    I’ve seen that it’s apparently going to impact automated offsides but that in my opinion is all VAR should be used on and if it means my club get robbed in a match because of a bad call, I’ll live with it like I did before it existed.

  24. Always interesting to see the disparity between the opinions on VAR of those who don’t actually go to games (99% of people on this sub) and those who spend their lives watching football on a screen.

    Whilst I don’t think enough has been done make VAR the best it can possibly be (and if you did reach that point then you could have a vote on it), it is still the a fact that it absolutely destroys the match-going fans experience. As a season ticket holder and someone who also visits away games to follow my team, you very, very rarely meet someone who is for VAR. It destroys the flow of a game. Football isn’t meant to be a repeatedly disrupted experience that is forensically picked apart, decision by decision.

    But fuck the proper fans eh? Let’s make a sport that plastics and fairweather fans in Illinois, Shanghai and Delhi are OK with.

    Any downvote for this = you simply do not get it. Not one bit.

  25. The best course of action here is to put accountability to the refs! Not to scrap VAR!

  26. No point scrapping VAR, if you still have the same terrible officials making the decisions.

  27. Reform is needed, this isn’t an all or nothing thing, and if we scrap VAR, this is just what PGMOL wanted all along – less accountability.

    If anything, we need to enact it with tighter guidelines and punishments for getting things wrong. No more arbitrary language, all communications should be public and using official language per the actual rule book like they are lawyers interpreting the law.

    In fact, the VAR checkers should actually be lawyers who interpret the incident based on the rule books and if change is needed, then it should be done on a rule book legislative level, not by ole Mikey Dean on the fly based on how famous he wants to feel that day.

  28. they literally want to do this so refs dont look like they are national league level also to make oil money win more easily also how stupid you have to be to WANT a worse technology because the refs cant use it properly

  29. In my opinion VAR should only be used for potential red cards, now that Premier League and La Liga are getting semi automatic offside system means VAR really isn’t needed, offsides are the majority of cases when it comed to VAR controversies

  30. Which of the 3 teams vote the relegated or the newly promoted?

  31. I am for VAR. I would advocate that the reply be at half speed not frame by frame. If you can’t tell something is offside at half speed, it isn’t.

  32. https://imgur.com/a/Ps5t4sH

    Ill never forget VAR Officials giving this as a handball.

    This sort of thing should be spoken about. Its not VAR that gave the handball, its the officials. They wanted this replay, saw the ball hit tyrone mings shoulder and THEY decided to give handball.

    Its not VAR thats the issue, its the officials, with or without it they are incompetent.

  33. VAR is the only thing keeping refs accountable which is especially important in this new mass sports gambling craze. Get ready for ref corruption & game fixing to be more common than ever before if VAR is removed. DO NOT SCRAP VAR.

  34. Every team needs to have a VAR voting rep and they vote on every VAR review throughout the season. The team that is on the minority side of the most VAR decisions will be deducted X points at the end of the season. Thank me later.

  37. I think they never wanted it to begin with so decided to be so rancid with it that they’d have to scrap it.

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