Donald Trump is barely holding it together at trial — no wonder Republicans are afraid of a debate

https://www.salon.com/2024/05/17/no-wonder-are-afraid-of-a-debate–donald-is-barely-holding-it-together-at-trial/

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  2. To be fair, blowing up in a criminal trial while at counsel table is one thing, but I think no one will be surprised when he does it at a debate. It’s par for the course and I don’t think it really swings the needle one way or the other.

  3. Of course Trump will back out. He’s a con man being called on his con, and with each day he’s sliding into dementia headfirst

  4. Trump is right now begging his son to graduate again in June.

  5. So wait only now they are noticing that he is getting worse and worse?

    How long is it until he is so out of control that he has to back out of doing presidential debates, or from public speaking overall?

    I am not guessing very long if we are to go by the reaction of the GOP.

  6. As much as I want to believe this, the presence of Repulcian congress members at his trial this past week speaks volumes of his strangle hold on his party.
    The speaker of the house showed up and talked shit about the judge and their family.
    Trump is a ~~drunk~~ old delusional idiotic chimp with a machine gun.

    Edit to reflect trump sobriety

  7. Do they think his last debate was considered him holding it together? Lol. They have an extremely high threshold of composure.

  8. I have been maintaining for a while that I think that there is a good chance that Trump will end up not being the Republican nominee. Given his very visible accelerated rate of decline, mentally and physically, it is quite possible (probable) that he will totally melt down or collapse before the election. What happens then? I don’t know, but, I’d say “Buckle up” because it’s apt to get interesting.

  10. Farting (or shitting) and sleeping in court and making deranged, incoherent statements and tweets is now called “holding it together?”

  12. Well, today is his day off to ~~go see his son’s graduation~~ fuck around and then go to a rally.

    But seriously, over/under on him going to the graduation? We don’t have long now to see how it turns out.

  16. Five minutes ago, I read an article about how Cohen’s cross examination handed Trump a great day in court. Now I see this. Which is it?

  17. Honestly I think the letter agencies will finish him off-stroke or whatever- rather than put an ex president in jail.

    For them justice dropped on a POTUS would set a scary precedent and they do not want to get the public used to not sheep-like follow everything the establishment demands.

  18. If only someone called him a coward on tv for not testifying, to goad him into doing it. Imagine the insanity that would ensue in people trying to stop him and the circus that would happen.

  19. By barely holding it together do you mean, can’t stay awake? I’d be tired to. All that *winning* gets exhausting after 8 years

  20. Don’t worry Repugs. Once he gets himself primed using his accordion hands, the lies will flow fast and furious.

  21. Biden should totally shame Trump into debating. “Clearly Mr. Trump is afraid to debate me. Look at the oh so strong man, scared to be on the same stage as me, a guy he’s described as low energy, sleepy, and incompetent. If he’s afraid to debate me how the hell is he going to be able to represent our country to the rest of the world? I bet he’s going to fold like the cheap suits and novelty big ties he wears. What a weakling.”

  22. I starting to doubt that there will be Presidential debates this year. Trump didn’t even bother to show at the primary debates so why is he going to show up at these two debates unless it’s set up heavily in his favor. He’s going to claim the format that he agreed to is unfair and use that as his excuse not to show.

  23. I see faux news and others including trump himself trying to shape the debate as pro democrat so he can cry foul. But he was the one that wanted the debate. Anytime any place anywhere.

  24. He will be lucky if the stunt dosent put the jury off of him before they deliberate. If it was me personally the complete disrespect of the court / law while on trial means he clearly does not give a single fuck about the law and like did what to prosecutors said he did. Personally the second he started walking lawmakers into court I would have decided guilty.

  25. Oh you put your eggs in one basket and it’s falling apart. Boo woo

  26. Reminder. This guy has a high chance of being President of the United States of America. Vote!

  27. “Why would I debate when ALL the polls say I’m LEADING the election by a LOT?”

  28. There is no way Trump debates Biden. He’ll back out last minute and go hold a rally somewhere

  29. The man is well beyond his time. And what was he always? A contemptuous narcissist seeking the admiration of Manhattanites, who had always ignored him because the guy is a Luddite. Trump is classless and boring. He never made it in NY City. His horrific personality was destined for a place like Florida (simple, backward, Republican).

  30. The MAGAts are proudly wearing diapers in honor of him. They will not be swayed by his presumably poor performance at a debate. He can do no wrong in their eyes.

    They will vote for him and any candidate he endorses. Perhaps there is some chance that those who are truly undecided at debate time might be persuaded to _not_vote for him?

  31. It’s starting to look so desperate now with all his cheer leaders turning up at court to hold his hand. You half expect to see him wearing little shorts.

  32. The bar is so low for Trump, unless there’s clear evidence that he shit himself, he won’t lose a vote.

  33. It’s certainly going to be interesting to watch, because frankly, Trump doesn’t stand to gain much from debating. Everyone is already aware of him and his message. The format with no audience and the cutting of mics doesn’t play well to his style either. It’s a bigger risk that he actually loses support by coming off as unhinged and insecure.

    Biden is really the one who can use the debate to convince non-voters to get up and engage themselves. He’s not just making the case against Trump, he’s making the case for relection. Incidentally, he’s also the one with more to lose. If he slips up even once on stage, people will pound on it as proof that he’s unfit for office. He can’t afford to give that crowd more ammunition. He also can’t really refuse to debate because that will further spur accusations of diminished mental facilities, which is probably why his camp saw it as strategic to be the ones extending the invitation.

    As a determined Biden-backer, my mind is already made up, but it’s nevertheless unprecedented that there’s this much controversy surrounding presidential debates and could really signal a paradigm shift.

  34. Biden and Trump will both be pumped full of uppers for that debate, it’s going to come down to whether or not Biden looks competent vs Trump not coming off as too overbearing

  35. Ironic thing is that as much as the Republican Party wants to push Joe Biden as a bumbling old man with dementia, Trump would be utterly destroyed in a debate by Biden’s ability to speak about meaningful things. Trump would *only* solidify support among those who already support him, and further push away anyone else. Biden would likely continue to scoop up the undecided voters because of it, and undecided voters are how you win elections. Which is why it still absolutely baffles me that they didn’t support Haley more.

  36. It’s the same reason why they didn’t want Herschel Walker to have a one on one interview.

  37. With how quickly Trump is deteriorating. His word slurring, falling asleep in the trial, the diaper stories; how is it possible he is leading in the polls? I do not understand.

  38. Trump is ahead of Biden in most swing states. All Trump has to do is take Florida, Georgia, and Arizona. The win is his.

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