>Reflecting on the transgender rights row, Sturgeon said it felt as if on every issue “people were coming at that issue in terms of how they thought about me — that felt true on the trans issue, it felt true on a number of issues.”
>Sturgeon said she had thought that if she removed herself from the equation “maybe the politics, the discourse and the debate in Scotland will be a bit more healthy.”
>But, she conceded, it “hasn’t quite worked out that way, but yes that is why I decided to stand down.”
As I mentioned in another thread, believable to an extent – the GRA debate _had_ become quite toxic – but in my opinion only as an additional contributing factor alongside the impending arrests and investigation step up, it’s too big of a coincidence.
Because the criminal investigation involving herself and her husband was no biggie
It was obviously shite at the time, and it’s still shite now.
Would be interesting to know if the folk who vigorously defended her integrity on here at the time still believe she was being honest about it. The ones who were genuinely sucked in by her I mean, not the wheesht for Indy crowd.
Or her husband’s embezzlement take your pick
Aye the magic is gone, Nicky. Nobody is buying yer nonsense now.
Nothing to do with knowingly getting arrested soon after she quit then.
Toxified the trans discussions by trying to cold shoulder the side she didn’t agree with, oversaw the loss of tens of thousands of paying SNP members, got arrested, husband was arrested, handed Humza a poisoned chalice, made a new harrassment policy and applied it retrospectively to attempt to silence Salmond, lost the judicial review, and more cases coming from Salmond on the offensive, use a covid press briefing to undermine a jury, tanked the independance cause, filled the SNP will talentless no hopers, plays identity politics and is utterly unbearable to watch on TV
Shame she couldn’t have stood up for women’s rights more
Fuck off man who actually believes this pish 😂
Still the most successful leader of our time.
Sure.
Aye right 🤥
There’s nothing more annoying than politicians who try to stay relevant in the media after retiring
What an absolute load of nonsense. Stances on gender and sex based rights vary across and within parties. That’s been proven time and again. It was never about Sturgeon.
Sturgeon also took advantage of the culture war within the SNP to silence critics, and outside the SNP to shore up votes. And then backtracked on her own policy of self-ID.
This ‘poor me’ politics is cowardly and an attempt to rewrite her political obituary which can be boiled down to financial impropriety and iron fist control freakery.
I don’t really believe this. I think the whole trans stuff was massively overblown, most people genuinely couldn’t care and don’t care about it. There was cross party support as well with 18/22 Labour MSPs backing the bill, all Green MSPs, all Lib Dem MSPs, 3 Conservative MSPs, and 54 SNP MSPs [backing the bill](https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees/votes-and-motions/S6M-07312)
At the time I believed she stood down either for some private health reasons, or because of the accusations of misusing party funds. I had hoped it wouldn’t be because of the funds, not because I wish her ill health, more because I didn’t understand why she would misuse the funds.
We still don’t know about the embezzlement charges; I’m hoping she is innocent as I don’t understand why she would act in such a destructive manner for such a relatively small amount of money for someone like her who could do a speaking tour and easily rake in a few million over a period of time.
if she’d just have put the bill forward after the first consultation, before it had a chance to be spun out of control as some kind of end of the world scenario, we’d already have an updated GRA bc the tories wouldn’t have realised that blocking it was politically convenient. and, just like every other country in the world that has adopted a self-ID process like ours was supposed to have, there would have been zero evidence of the claims transphobes are making. we’d have moved on, trans people wouldn’t be the fucking election wedge issue, and the tories would have to lean on some other distraction to force the stupid voters to hate instead of dealing with the real problems the country has. fucking joke, the whole process.
If she really gave a fuck about transphobia she would have suspended the whip from transphobes in her party and not made a known transphobe her finance minister
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>Reflecting on the transgender rights row, Sturgeon said it felt as if on every issue “people were coming at that issue in terms of how they thought about me — that felt true on the trans issue, it felt true on a number of issues.”
>Sturgeon said she had thought that if she removed herself from the equation “maybe the politics, the discourse and the debate in Scotland will be a bit more healthy.”
>But, she conceded, it “hasn’t quite worked out that way, but yes that is why I decided to stand down.”
As I mentioned in another thread, believable to an extent – the GRA debate _had_ become quite toxic – but in my opinion only as an additional contributing factor alongside the impending arrests and investigation step up, it’s too big of a coincidence.
Nothing to do with the looming financial scandal?
Bollocks
She is a proven liar.
Simply cannot trust a word she says.
I don’t believe a damn thing she says.
she tied herself in knots over [Isla Bryson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Bryson_case) & [Tiffany Scott](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiffany_Scott_(prisoner)), the [Peter Smith interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYmKZwvpPOk) I think was when she realised that there were issues and needed to be caveats, it wasn’t going to be a simple policy.
555-Come-On-Now
aye did they buy that motorhome?
Because the criminal investigation involving herself and her husband was no biggie
It was obviously shite at the time, and it’s still shite now.
Would be interesting to know if the folk who vigorously defended her integrity on here at the time still believe she was being honest about it. The ones who were genuinely sucked in by her I mean, not the wheesht for Indy crowd.
Or her husband’s embezzlement take your pick
Aye the magic is gone, Nicky. Nobody is buying yer nonsense now.
Nothing to do with knowingly getting arrested soon after she quit then.
Toxified the trans discussions by trying to cold shoulder the side she didn’t agree with, oversaw the loss of tens of thousands of paying SNP members, got arrested, husband was arrested, handed Humza a poisoned chalice, made a new harrassment policy and applied it retrospectively to attempt to silence Salmond, lost the judicial review, and more cases coming from Salmond on the offensive, use a covid press briefing to undermine a jury, tanked the independance cause, filled the SNP will talentless no hopers, plays identity politics and is utterly unbearable to watch on TV
Shame she couldn’t have stood up for women’s rights more
Fuck off man who actually believes this pish 😂
Still the most successful leader of our time.
Sure.
Aye right 🤥
There’s nothing more annoying than politicians who try to stay relevant in the media after retiring
What an absolute load of nonsense. Stances on gender and sex based rights vary across and within parties. That’s been proven time and again. It was never about Sturgeon.
Sturgeon also took advantage of the culture war within the SNP to silence critics, and outside the SNP to shore up votes. And then backtracked on her own policy of self-ID.
This ‘poor me’ politics is cowardly and an attempt to rewrite her political obituary which can be boiled down to financial impropriety and iron fist control freakery.
I don’t really believe this. I think the whole trans stuff was massively overblown, most people genuinely couldn’t care and don’t care about it. There was cross party support as well with 18/22 Labour MSPs backing the bill, all Green MSPs, all Lib Dem MSPs, 3 Conservative MSPs, and 54 SNP MSPs [backing the bill](https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees/votes-and-motions/S6M-07312)
At the time I believed she stood down either for some private health reasons, or because of the accusations of misusing party funds. I had hoped it wouldn’t be because of the funds, not because I wish her ill health, more because I didn’t understand why she would misuse the funds.
We still don’t know about the embezzlement charges; I’m hoping she is innocent as I don’t understand why she would act in such a destructive manner for such a relatively small amount of money for someone like her who could do a speaking tour and easily rake in a few million over a period of time.
if she’d just have put the bill forward after the first consultation, before it had a chance to be spun out of control as some kind of end of the world scenario, we’d already have an updated GRA bc the tories wouldn’t have realised that blocking it was politically convenient. and, just like every other country in the world that has adopted a self-ID process like ours was supposed to have, there would have been zero evidence of the claims transphobes are making. we’d have moved on, trans people wouldn’t be the fucking election wedge issue, and the tories would have to lean on some other distraction to force the stupid voters to hate instead of dealing with the real problems the country has. fucking joke, the whole process.
If she really gave a fuck about transphobia she would have suspended the whip from transphobes in her party and not made a known transphobe her finance minister
Bullshit.