Biden: what would Trump have done if the Capitol riots had been led by Black Americans?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/20/joe-biden-donald-trump-january-6-capitol-riots-black-americans-naacp-dinner-speech-detroit

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  1. A bit from the article:

    > Biden was speaking during a campaign swing through Georgia and Michigan, two battlegrounds where the Black vote will be crucial. Opinion polls suggest that a small but significant percentage are turning from Biden to Trump.
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    > The president told the audience in Detroit: “You’re the reason Donald Trump was defeated for president. You’re the reason Donald Trump is going to be a loser again.”
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    > Biden touted his own record but kept returning to Trump and the threat he poses to democracy. He highlighted his own appointment of the first Black female supreme court justice, Ketanji Brown Jackson.
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    > “Let me ask you, who do you think he’ll put on the supreme court?” he asked. “Do you think he’ll pick anybody who has a brain?”
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    > Biden also accused Republicans of banning books and undermining African American history. “Extremists close the doors of opportunity, strike down affirmative action, attack the values of diversity, equality and inclusion,” he said.
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    > “They don’t see you in the future of America, but they’re wrong. We know Black history is American history.”
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    > The president also warned: “The threat that Trump poses in a second term is greater than the first.” He said “something snapped in Trump” after his 2020 election defeat and “he’s clearly unhinged”.

  2. Trump wouldn’t have to do anything, the cops probably would have started shooting rather than take selfies with the “rioters.”

  3. It would have lasted 10 seconds before the full force of the DC police and national guard was brought down on them. The only thing that spared the J6 traitors is their whiteness.

  5. Most Black people wouldn’t have gone to January 6th because they know who Donald Trump is. They’ve had hundreds of years of dealing with people like Donald Trump. They remember how he and his father put the letter C on their applications and wouldn’t rent to them because of who they were. They remembered Donald Trump accusing five innocent Black men of raping a White woman with full-page ads that prejudiced the jury pool to send these innocent men to prison and never once issued a retraction even though they were found to be innocent. And the state of NY had to pay millions of dollars for their incarceration. They know when Donald Trump refers to them as THE Blacks, who he is. They know who is behind the drive to disenfranchise their vote. They know that many people who voted for Trump did so because they hated Obama.

  6. There would have been a lot more than one rioter shot. They’d have been mowed down before they ever breached the building.

  7. If it was done by anyone other than republicans it would have been much different.

  10. He would have demanded the death sentence like the central park five.

  11. This is the sort of rhetoric that he needs to pose to a largely apathetic and disinterested electorate. The campaign is doubling down on things we know, but are afraid state.

    Trump is a traitor who compromised national security with appeasement of Putin

    Trump is a racist that has employed white supremacists in his cabinet and will 10x in his next administration

    Trump is a lackey of christian nationalists who has and will destroy freedoms we hold dear in fealty to a fundamentalist voting bloc

    Trump is a rapist

    And as Biden states – he is a racist whose family has a history of racism, and would likely have massacred a protest at the Capitol.

    That is all.

  12. There are only 3 questions that matter post J6th. 1. How would you feel had they been successful? 2. If it had been any group other than Trump supporters how would you expect this to have been handled? 3. Why haven’t the people in charge been held accountable?

  13. “When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it,” Trump said. “Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak.” -Trump

  14. We’d STILL be burying the dead….🤷🏽‍♂️🇺🇸

  16. We need more this on the campaign trail. Whoever still votes for Trump these days clearly is a racist. The proof is overwhelming.

  17. The first sight of 3 black men together let alone 15,0000, the riot never would have happened. They would have been met with military force.

  19. I say this all the time when combating idiot trumpets….they have no reply other than……. Same, they were just supporting what they believed in.

    I say, no way, they would have mowed them down with machine guns from helicopters. Which is what I wished they had done to the people that were there.

  21. Considering how Trump and Republicans responded to what they _called_ riots… probably, 50-60 dead, 150-200 maimed by gunfire, and declarations of martial law.

  22. Mowed them down with real bullets. It’s completely okay in Texas….

  23. Well, if they had the same goal as the actual j6 folks, I assume Trump would be fine with it. He’d likely even point out how “Americans from all walks of life” were there to see justice prevail.

  24. It’s no secret that MAGA is all about racism. The big question is why does American media keep it whisper quiet. I believe MAGA is as surprised as anyone that they are getting away with it and will continue…

  25. Dozens if not hundreds dead. None of them would have left the capitol… and there wouldn’t have been months before charges were announced. There would have been thousands of innocent black Americans arrested and charged even if they had nothing to do with the event. New laws would have been passed cracking down on facebook and other social media outlets where the attack was planned.

    When white people organize a violent coup to literally kidnap, punish, and murder members of congress, the medias reaction is *”why are these rightly upset citizens not being listened too?”*

    When black people protest an innocent man being murdered, and looting happens by people not even associated with the protests… the medias’ reaction is *”Why are we being so soft on these dangerous treasonous rioters!”*

    Biden doesn’t get a lot of credit, but his attitude towards people protesting has been admirable and in-line with our democratic norms. He has refused to engage in blanket condemnation of the non-violent and even at times aggressively non-violent protestors. He has said and shown restraint and respect when people even in his own administration disagree, or quit. He hasn’t vilified them or denounced anyone who hasn’t deserved it.

    IT has been refreshing to see a president calmly and reasonably respond to those who are calling him a *supporter of genocide*. He hears them, and has continued to listen even when it would be easy to grand stand and dismiss them.

  26. We don’t have to wonder. We saw the capitol steps lined with national guard when BLM came to protest.

  27. It would never have happened. It would have been stopped before it even started. Anyone with an internet connection and a functioning brain knew what was going to happen that day. The FBI knew, local police knew, elected officials knew, they chose to let it happen. In the weeks/days leading up to it, there were tons of people talking about it openly on social media.

  28. Lots more death… the same people screaming anti dei, pro confederacy bs would have been the first homicidals on the ground.  They would have beat the cops and military out there to kill somebody under the protection of patriotism.  

  29. Conservatives would scream for public lynchings.

  30. It’s not what Biden would have done it’s what the capital police would have done and should have done on Jan 6th if they acted the same way they when dark skinned people showed up over racial based abuses.

    But no, the capital police dragged their feet and even had some taking pictures with the people invading the capital.

  31. Trump is PT Barnum but so much worse because the damage he could inflict is real

  32. he tear gassed a priest from a church next to the White House and went and took a picture with a bible held upside down in front of it while escorted by a military guard. we don’t really have to guess June 1 was what happened when they were protesting and not attacking police on our capital steps with an American flag.

  33. The only sort of conspiracy theory I kind of buy in to, is that they stoked this right because they expected a massive counter protest and would have used that to go full authoritarian hammer on everyone. Then steer the narrative in their favor.

  34. It would have been “safeties off, weapons hot.”

    It would have been a massacre.

  36. He’s not wrong. Those fucking traitors on January 6th should’ve had FAR greater consequences at the time and would’ve if they were liberals.

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