Technically the sun is responsible for that shadow. An bord pleanála should revoke planning permission for the sun. Sorted.
I’ve always said it and will say it again.
Lots of couples are Selfish.
They don’t think about the outside world or anything that’s not relevant to there bubble.
Obviously the development lowers their property value but could there not be some way of just compensating that lost value to proceed with the development?
Scum.
This is disgusting! The portrayal of the couple as selfish nimby nay-sayers who are opposed to such a public-spirited project as an assisted living facility is pure character assassination.
This is a developer who is out to make a profit. They are not “doing it for the good of the community”. If the current residents of the area have valid concerns over the effect that the development will have on their enjoyment of their property, they are perfectly justified in voicing them.
This “article” stinks of vested interest and collusion. I wonder if the developer is friends with the “journalist” or if money has changed hands.
Mr. and Mrs Tracey say they want to build an extension at some point in the future.
Submitting a planning objection against them would be some craic.
Would be considered a fairly typical complaint I imagine
The council have granted permission. The neighbours, you, me and everyone else has the option to appeal any and every decision because we still do things democratically. When that appeal isn’t justified it will be thrown out. People have the right to be selfish and the state has the authority to ignore their selfishness. It’s a slow and frustrating system but that’s because it has to be thorough. Developers know this better than anyone. It happens every day up and down the country, if you’re reading about it it’s because the developer is trying to stir shit.
The system, the laws, they’re completely broken and need to be overhauled
No wonder theres a lack of housing…
Old NIMBYs don’t want anyone near them. Not even other old people. Not even developments that could benefit them at some point.
my parents did this a few years ago for an apartment block
I just don’t understand this NIMBY attitude.
People of all demographics clearly need housing. And everyone complains about needing a solution until they need to look at it?
Name and shame is hardly the way to go on this
Council has already granted permission, just another case of someone wasting the developers and ABP’s time in the hopes they give up. Simple solution is to let the council have the final say on permission, people can appeal to ABP for financial compensation while construction goes ahead. 99% of this shite would go away.
Blocks a, b, c and d are 3 floors, essentially the same height as the houses. They’re right beside the objectors house. But as a 3 floor flat roof, will seem much bigger. Developers always try to squeeze as much in as possible. If they went with 2 floor buildings here instead, then it’s not an issue.
This couple are evil, and I can prove it.
Imagine the exact same scenario, but reverse the order of operations. The apartment block already exists and is overshadowing this couple’s back garden slightly. They are given the power to increase the amount of natural light in their garden by demolishing this apartment block and making 109 elderly people homeless. They would be evil if they chose to do this, right?
Making someone homeless and denying someone the ability to have a home are functionally the same thing. This is psychopathic, anti-social behaviour from Martin and Susan Treacy.
Fuck Martin Treacy and Susan Treacy. If you are friends with them please tell them to go fuck themselves.
They plan to withdraw their objection just as they reach the average age of new residents.
There needs to be some changes made to the objection system. How can one person stop a project of this size. Absolutely mental.
Ah Goatstown nimbys. They should get on to Joe Duffy and tell him how they can’t enjoy the simple tings of Tea and toast on the fancy back yard with a raised patio and Crown Imperial (Fritillaria imperialis) coming into bloom.
the very own citizens of this country are the biggest support of the housing crisis.
Every construction has a fecking objection ffs.
let’s just pay a shitload of rent and energy and make them happy.
Our planning laws and system for good and for bad are designed to stop stuff from being built, they are there to protect, to stop. Unfortunately this means that it makes it much harder for stuff to be built. It doesn’t matter what it is being built: housing, factories or even a metro.
disgraceful stuff as per usual. selfish and entitled doesnt even cover it. these are the exact type of developments we need if we want older people to vacate their 3/4 beds to pass them onto younger people.
LOLOLOL These are potentially the best neighbours you could ask for. And if this doesn’t go ahead, you’re going to get an apartment block full of people who have parties.
Grow up.
In fairness, who’d want that backing into their garden causing a shadow. I doubt anyone in this thread would gladly let it happen to them. Mediation and an adjustment of the plans to prevent a huge shadow, I’m sure, would be the answer and everyone is served.
It seems that some people think just writing ‘nimby’ is already the end of the discussion, case closed. It stands to reason that the people directly affected are going to be the ones complaining. Tbh I don’t know enough about the specifics of this particular case to have a strong opinion but I can say that if the light coming into my house was drastically affected then I would definitely lodge a complaint. It’s easy to preach about a housing crisis when it’s not your house being affected. If they really want to tackle housing then build big where there is space and decentralise the economy. Crowbarring in units to the last green spaces in existing suburbs and the subsequent planning drama grabs the focus but is not the answer imo
So hopefully, older folks will downsize current houses in Dublin.. freeing up some houses to go into market
(granted probably huge price but least step forward)
Bright side Susan and Michael no noise pollution or anti social behavior with your new neighbors…
*Tell the kids to play out the front and buy an extra lamp for the new extension*
I’m sure if the developers bungs them 20 grand they won’t be quite so bothered by the shadows.
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Technically the sun is responsible for that shadow. An bord pleanála should revoke planning permission for the sun. Sorted.
I’ve always said it and will say it again.
Lots of couples are Selfish.
They don’t think about the outside world or anything that’s not relevant to there bubble.
Obviously the development lowers their property value but could there not be some way of just compensating that lost value to proceed with the development?
Scum.
This is disgusting! The portrayal of the couple as selfish nimby nay-sayers who are opposed to such a public-spirited project as an assisted living facility is pure character assassination.
This is a developer who is out to make a profit. They are not “doing it for the good of the community”. If the current residents of the area have valid concerns over the effect that the development will have on their enjoyment of their property, they are perfectly justified in voicing them.
This “article” stinks of vested interest and collusion. I wonder if the developer is friends with the “journalist” or if money has changed hands.
Mr. and Mrs Tracey say they want to build an extension at some point in the future.
Submitting a planning objection against them would be some craic.
Would be considered a fairly typical complaint I imagine
The council have granted permission. The neighbours, you, me and everyone else has the option to appeal any and every decision because we still do things democratically. When that appeal isn’t justified it will be thrown out. People have the right to be selfish and the state has the authority to ignore their selfishness. It’s a slow and frustrating system but that’s because it has to be thorough. Developers know this better than anyone. It happens every day up and down the country, if you’re reading about it it’s because the developer is trying to stir shit.
The system, the laws, they’re completely broken and need to be overhauled
No wonder theres a lack of housing…
Old NIMBYs don’t want anyone near them. Not even other old people. Not even developments that could benefit them at some point.
my parents did this a few years ago for an apartment block
I just don’t understand this NIMBY attitude.
People of all demographics clearly need housing. And everyone complains about needing a solution until they need to look at it?
Name and shame is hardly the way to go on this
Council has already granted permission, just another case of someone wasting the developers and ABP’s time in the hopes they give up. Simple solution is to let the council have the final say on permission, people can appeal to ABP for financial compensation while construction goes ahead. 99% of this shite would go away.
Just so people have a picture of what’s happening, this pdf is from the planning website. Mount Anville Lawns are the houses on the left. You can the development right beside them.
https://planningapi.agileapplications.ie/api/application/document/DLR/4647760
Blocks a, b, c and d are 3 floors, essentially the same height as the houses. They’re right beside the objectors house. But as a 3 floor flat roof, will seem much bigger. Developers always try to squeeze as much in as possible. If they went with 2 floor buildings here instead, then it’s not an issue.
This couple are evil, and I can prove it.
Imagine the exact same scenario, but reverse the order of operations. The apartment block already exists and is overshadowing this couple’s back garden slightly. They are given the power to increase the amount of natural light in their garden by demolishing this apartment block and making 109 elderly people homeless. They would be evil if they chose to do this, right?
Making someone homeless and denying someone the ability to have a home are functionally the same thing. This is psychopathic, anti-social behaviour from Martin and Susan Treacy.
Fuck Martin Treacy and Susan Treacy. If you are friends with them please tell them to go fuck themselves.
They plan to withdraw their objection just as they reach the average age of new residents.
There needs to be some changes made to the objection system. How can one person stop a project of this size. Absolutely mental.
Ah Goatstown nimbys. They should get on to Joe Duffy and tell him how they can’t enjoy the simple tings of Tea and toast on the fancy back yard with a raised patio and Crown Imperial (Fritillaria imperialis) coming into bloom.
the very own citizens of this country are the biggest support of the housing crisis.
Every construction has a fecking objection ffs.
let’s just pay a shitload of rent and energy and make them happy.
Our planning laws and system for good and for bad are designed to stop stuff from being built, they are there to protect, to stop. Unfortunately this means that it makes it much harder for stuff to be built. It doesn’t matter what it is being built: housing, factories or even a metro.
disgraceful stuff as per usual. selfish and entitled doesnt even cover it. these are the exact type of developments we need if we want older people to vacate their 3/4 beds to pass them onto younger people.
LOLOLOL These are potentially the best neighbours you could ask for. And if this doesn’t go ahead, you’re going to get an apartment block full of people who have parties.
Grow up.
In fairness, who’d want that backing into their garden causing a shadow. I doubt anyone in this thread would gladly let it happen to them. Mediation and an adjustment of the plans to prevent a huge shadow, I’m sure, would be the answer and everyone is served.
It seems that some people think just writing ‘nimby’ is already the end of the discussion, case closed. It stands to reason that the people directly affected are going to be the ones complaining. Tbh I don’t know enough about the specifics of this particular case to have a strong opinion but I can say that if the light coming into my house was drastically affected then I would definitely lodge a complaint. It’s easy to preach about a housing crisis when it’s not your house being affected. If they really want to tackle housing then build big where there is space and decentralise the economy. Crowbarring in units to the last green spaces in existing suburbs and the subsequent planning drama grabs the focus but is not the answer imo
So hopefully, older folks will downsize current houses in Dublin.. freeing up some houses to go into market
(granted probably huge price but least step forward)
Bright side Susan and Michael no noise pollution or anti social behavior with your new neighbors…
*Tell the kids to play out the front and buy an extra lamp for the new extension*
I’m sure if the developers bungs them 20 grand they won’t be quite so bothered by the shadows.