‘Let yourself be monitored’: EU governments to agree on Chat Control with user “consent”

‘Let yourself be monitored’: EU governments to agree on Chat Control with user “consent”



by vriska1

24 comments

  1. mass and indiscriminate search of messages between private citizens. EU never fails to deliver…

  2. And this, kids, is why the 80s and 90s were the peak of human civilization and screw whoever says otherwise.

  4. > If a user does not agree to the scanning of their private photos and videos, they would still be able to use the service for sending text messages, but would no longer be able to share images and videos

    Lol yall can go and fck yourself

  7. ok lets start with all the politicians in favor of that

  8. I know the phrase is overused, but this is literally 1984 on a amaller scale. The fact that they can monitor every single one of your moves definitely ain’t going to be a huge problem.

  9. I wonder what will happen with photos of Greek Christening rituals (baptism), which involves a naked toddler handled by a priest and at least one more adult. lol! it would be fun to see. :p

  10. More control by goverments, to make sure you don’t fall of the goverments paths. We need to defend our rights as citizens of the EU and make sure that none of these proposals pass and we can keep our privacy, all we need is just one of these to pass to lose our privacy i really do hope that none of these proposals ever pass

  13. It’s quite concerning indeed.

    Chat Control 2.0 scans private content for child pornography.

    What next?

    Chat Control 3.0 scans private content for potential terrorists.
    Chat Control 4.0 scans private content for financial crimes.
    Chat Control 5.0 scans private content for criminal activities.
    Chat Control 6.0 scans private content for “far-right” “extremists.”

    The European Union (EU) is considering a controversial proposal known as “Chat Control 2.0.” Here’s what it entails:

    1. **Purpose**: The proposal aims to combat child sexual abuse by monitoring private messages and photos exchanged through messengers, email, and chat services.
    2. **Scanning Content**: If approved, providers of these services would be required to automatically search all private messages and images for suspicious content. Initially, the focus would be on previously classified child sexual abuse material (CSAM).
    3. **Privacy Concerns**: However, this approach raises several concerns:
    * **End-to-End Encryption**: Securely encrypted messenger apps like WhatsApp or Signal would need to implement surveillance bugs and vulnerabilities. This compromises user privacy because we can’t be sure if our messages or photos will be forwarded to unknown parties.
    * **Mass Surveillance**: Scanning millions of private communications unrelated to crime violates fundamental rights and EU Court of Justice jurisprudence.
    * **Impact on Children**: Indiscriminate scanning could criminalize innocent children who receive seemingly harmless content via chat channels.
    * **Ineffectiveness**: Scanning for known material doesn’t help identify victims or prevent abuse.
    4. **Legal Challenges**: Legal experts argue that indiscriminate content analysis contradicts fundamental rights and would likely be challenged in court.

    In summary, while the goal is noble, the proposed approach has significant drawbacks. It’s a delicate balance between protecting children and preserving privacy.

  14. The CP argument is just an excuse to have access to more private information, no sane person would let someone look through all the pics and vids you send let alone an AI who will very often commit mistakes

  15. If our two main parties weren’t supportive of this, Brexit could have turned out to be a good thing

  16. This “nothing to hide” disgusting take gives me “are you a traitor of the state?” vibes. You can use “saving children” as justification to just about anything because anyone opposing you is seemingly anti saving children. It’s a vastly used method of autocracy.

    What a cool way to fuck over 30 years or progress of some of the best privacy laws in the world.

  18. They’ll back down. They have to – this is so bone headed it beggars belief. You’re going to tell me that a state-sanctioned and publically announced backdoor is not the juiciest and lowest-hanging target for malicious actors? It’s flushing decades of consumer protection policy down the toilet.

    Are the dutch reps screaming their heads off to stop this? I’ve gotten the sense that there are robust channels of communication between devs and govt there that’s lead some really good work.

  19. This is so stupid. The child sex criminals simply won’t use these means to send their files.

  21. Nothing can backfire with this, I’m sure the hackers are not going to have a field day with the lawmakers private pictures when this drops 👍

    I wonder which politicians’ wifes’ naked pictures will be shared online first

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