Bidens nationaler Sicherheitsberater: USA „besorgt“ über Israels Isolation

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1. why not give them another trillion usd?

2. Should be more concerned about Taiwan

3. Yeah, shame.

4. Then for once do the right thing and push Israel towards a just two-state solution.

5. So long as US is willing to back Israel it will survive.

6. Honestly, I don’t know what geniuses think that recognizing a Palestinian State post Terrorist attack is Ideal.

   You can believe something is just and still understand how politics and more importantly incentives work. All Hamas has to do is maximize suffering it seems and they get what they want which is the opposite of a global rules based order.

   People don’t understand how this stuff works and honestly. This is my opinion but if I were the president I would definitely be thinking that i don’t support the rules based order anymore because most of the world is Undermining it by protecting it.

   It is like the ICC Israel thing. They don’t realize that they are undermining their legitimacy by going after it since the only people that will ever be held accountable that aren’t 3rd world despots are Western States. Russia, Iran, China are never going to be held accountable by the ICC and the population doesn’t care.

   The ICC doing this is just a feather in the cap of the people trying to undermine the rules based order because the people in Western States will use it to bludgeon western democracies and so forth.

   Unironically I feel like world leaders have yet to take a course in realpolitik but maybe they should because this is some of the most braindead stuff I have ever seen. Then again when the United States was the one in charge of all foreign policy for the last 4 decades it makes sense why most of the world doesn’t know how this works anymore.

7. Shits about to get real

8. >The US is concerned about Israel’s growing diplomatic isolation among countries that have traditionally supported it, Joe Biden’s national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, said on Wednesday.

   Let’s not kid ourselves, Norway never supported Israel and has always been super critical of it, Israel has always been blocked from any federal investments that Norway makes. I also don’t ever recall Spain and Ireland being friendly with Israel.

   In the end, Israel needs to do whatever it needs to do to stop Hamas.

9. I think it’s more concerning the number of countries willing to take the side of terrorists to make themselves feel better.

10. Israel doesn’t seem to be concerned

11. My child bites the other kids and keeps taking this one child’s lunch, why don’t they like him more?

12. With Israel’s decision making processes… they kind of isolated themselves. People have sort of asked them to “stop” multiple times at this point. Yet, they continue to press on Gaza. I think in the next few years, we will see further conflict in the region (again…) because no one has learned anything at this point, nor have them in the last… 2-3 THOUSAND years of conflict in the region.

13. USA going to be last on the right side of history just like with South Africa.

14. Every time that UN condemned Israel but USA vetoed the resolution, they were only making Israel believe that they could do what they wanted with no consequences. But they’ve crossed a lot of lines and it’s only normal that other countries start caring, because they’re part of the “western”, and what they’re doing embarrass us.

    You can downvote this, I don’t mind.

15. Israel can take care of itself, we should just stop giving them money and rid ourselves of the Israel lobby all together. All of those reculitrants in the middle east can murder each other to their hearts delight for all I care. My entire life I’ve watched my country care more about that region than it ever did its own people.

16. The problem of Israel isolation is it will get (even) closer to Russia, which in my opinion is still the maon reason the US always has their back, whatever crazy thing bibi decides to say, do or invade that day.

    And when that happens, the US will be in the weird position of having Turkey – a growing non-secularism, major muslim state – as an ally in NATO while another (allegedly, likely) nuclear nation tilts to a growing eastern coalition.

    Of course, money will always do the talking. If Israel still has cash to spare for US-made weapons and tech, I doubt the US government (and all the political campaign supporters from big Military) will allow it.

17. Has the Israeli state apparatus tried not acting like the governmental equivalent of a school shooter?