Net migration hits staggering 685,000 as calls for action intensify

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1902595/Rishi-Sunak-net-migration-intensify-borders

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  2. Labour would win 600 seats if they adopted the Danish Social Democrat policies on immigration and multiculturalism

  3. A government with Hunt, Cleverly, Cameron and Sunak. What did you expect ?

    There is a reason why they called an election, they don’t plan on doing anything else to cut immigration levels.

  4. Whats the figure when you take away temporary migrants like students?

  5. Maybe Keir will come up with a plan soon and not go the set up a commission group route. The election will be won or lost on immigration. The nation’s had enough. Plans are great action will be better.

  6. I for one can’t wait for all these new doctors and engineers to start working. With their skills there’s no doubt we’ll be able to get the NHS running smoothly and all the potholes fixed. This doesn’t even touch on the massive GDP boost that so many people will provide, which will no doubt be invested wisely for future generations. Maybe the money could be used for building houses, which we seem to have a shortage of!

    Of course, there’s also the cultural elements. I can’t wait to be introduced to exciting new foods and cultural practices stale old England has been missing out on. I’m personally excited to finally try a kebab. Enriching!

    How lucky we are. And the best thing is we’ll get to do it all again next year, and the year after that.

  7. The public are fed up with the Tories, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll become Labour voters. I still expect Labour to win, but I think Reform will do well. The legacy of this Tory government will unfortunately be increasing the divide between left and right.

  8. Isn’t most of this legal migration though? It’s all smoke and mirrors

  9. Is there an election soon? Coz those articles are going to be daily now it seems

  10. I guess it’s too early for the effects of some government measures to reduce visa numbers to show up in these figures. e.g. clampdown on dependents of carers didn’t happen till this year.

    Nevertheless I was expecting much lower figures as I assumed Rishi had got advance warning of some ‘good’ news ahead of yesterday’s announcement.

    Incredibly deceitful how the laissez-faire wing of the tory party have betrayed their support base on this.

  11. Brexit: Lock the doors, put in a one way cat flap accessible from the outside.

    I hate it. I’m trapped on this shitty little island while it gets more and more full by the day. There’s no room here already but i’m only allowed to leave on 3 month ‘day release’.

    Prison island.

  12. Is that 685,000 going to contribute anything to this country apart from turning it into a shithole?

  13. There’s nothing wrong with wanting lower immigration **if** you have a serious plan to staff our care system, staff our hosptials, pay for our universites and have enough working age people to support our ageing population.

  14. Just another day of huge parts of the country burying their heads in the sand. Calling for more NHS funding. Calling for more houses to built. Calling for more state support. And not a single one of them has stopped and ask ‘hmm, maybe letting in over half a million people each year is causing these issues? Na it must be literally anything else’

  15. It’s ok labour is going to win the election and fix this migration problem.

    Just the thought is laughable. No one has any interest in capping or stopping migrants.

  16. The path to ruin.

    People on here will place 100% of the blame on the Conservatives for this, but the problem started with Labour in 1997. Their policies opened the doors and no one has been able to close them since. Part of this is ineptitude, part of this is not having the will, but much of it is down to the narrative portrayed by the media, action groups and other politicians which all but ensures no one can come out with strong views on the subject and actually take action on it without being booted out of the establishment or side lined.

    The above is not an excuse for the Conservatives, they have been unacceptably terrible in this field too, but we should accept there are more hands involved in this terrible decision making than just them. We should also accept that there are more obstructions towards fixing this than political will.

    Honest questions should be asked.

    Who is this country for? Our people? Our adopted guests? Investors? Immigrants?

    What is our core motivation? Maintaining a great quality of life? Being the world’s investment bank? Becoming a tourist economy? Is there no one who’s money we won’t take, is there nothing we won’t sell off?

    Many of you will live in places that haven’t been touched by too much migration and might not have experienced the dramatic changes taking place in other parts of the country. Everyone should listen to those who live in the areas most affected for the longest time and try to understand the scale of change that is happening and whether or not you think it’s a good thing for our future.

    For decades, our local answer to many of these issues has just been to give up and move away because the area has changed too much, often for the worse. This has only accelerated the pace of change.

    It’s a tricky subject and lots of people feel very strongly about it, I hope people can learn to discuss this openly and constructively.

  17. I don’t know what to believe. Is immigration causing inflation and house prices to rise? Can the U.K actually afford to support genuine asylum seekers? Is the media feeding us lies? Are Russia propaganda’ists attacking the UK economy by spreading false information as we near election day. Are we taking in the wrong kind of migrants I.e. non-economic Vs economic migrants? Should I just delete all social media, stop watching the news and touch grass for the rest of my life?

  18. Doesn’t the Express get it yet? Migration wasn’t even reaching half the current numbers when the UK was in the EU.

    The irony that backing racist and divisionist ideology would actually cut immigration. The fact is that the vast majority of immigrants now are from Africa and the India – not the preferred ethnicities of Express readers. Whereas, before, whilst members of the EU, most immigrants were of European backgrounds and had skill sets to find work in the UK.

    Rising immigration – another Brexit bonus.

  19. Who would have thought the Tories would become the party of mass immigration. It’s almost like all their tough talk is just for show.

  20. When will you leave the ECHR? It’s incredible how “immigrant” is the magic word to manipulate 30% of voters.

  21. How can anybody say this is anything but madness?

    If this isn’t sorted, I dread to think of the politics we’re going to see in the future. Labour *must* get to grips with this if they get to power. A new border force agency isn’t enough.

  22. Does this include the 650k retirees who had to return to the UK from Spain this year?

  23. Brexiters caused the opposite of what they believed would happen despite every expert and rational learned person telling them this would be the result.

  25. Focusing on the wrong thing; they let people migrate to the UK because they can get away with paying them less, and because the UK doesn’t train enough of it’s own professionals.

    The government could refuse to let anyone in, but then British industry, public and private, would collapse. Or they could pay us decent wages and train and educate us, and within a decade they wouldn’t need to important the young and the educated and the desparate from abroad.

  26. It’s strange that the tories closed the gates to some of the richest, most educated and more culturally aligned migrants from Europe and opened the gates for the rest of the world.

    EU migration to the U.K. is through the floor, migration from the rest of the world is through the roof, I’m sure it’s goods news for somebody, I’m just not sure who.

  27. You mean those folks coming to work their butts off in our care homes, hospitals and other areas where we dont’ have the workers to fill?

    And..yes, we should train and pay our own..but we aren’t so….what do you suggest?

    and it’s only going to get worse as we have less and less children.

  28. How many people is too many people?

    As in, how can a person reasonably work out the actual capacity of a country?

    I personally couldn’t care less about the ethnicity of the people that make up the population of a country, not a popular stance I suspect but I couldn’t really give a shit what the nationality of the person living next door is, the only question for me is at what point are there so many people in a country that life ends up being miserable for everyone due to there being not enough to go round and there being nowhere to go to be away from other people for a bit.

    That’s all that really matters, as long as you’ve got what you need it shouldn’t really matter who else is here and who isn’t.

    So, bearing in mind that more people means more need and demand but also more people to service those needs and demands, and leaving aside the obvious problem with there being not enough housing, which is an artificial problem with no good reason for remaining unsolved, with all that in mind, genuine question, how many is too many?

    And another question for anyone who fears that we’re over capacity, how would you feel about the countries that are desirable destinations for immigrants forming a kind of more financial version of Nato to invest in the improvement of the countries that people are leaving, to make them more desirable for not only people to.want to remain in but tonalso make them desirable destination countries themselves for migrants?

    (And I’m not judging anyone who thinks that we are at capacity, they may be right for all I know, I just don’t feel we are myself but what the hell do I know I still make bunny ears to tie my shoes)

  29. Email your local MP guys. Especially Labour.

    Sign up to polling companies.

    Talk to your friends about it, normalise criticising these numbers.

    Immigration can be really beneficial, but clearly it’s gone above and beyond what is normal and safe. We’ve got to start somewhere in changing this.

  30. absolutely we need more Turkish barbers , nail saons , chicken shops and lets not forget taxi drivers who cannot drive on civilised first world roads , they never everdodge tax in anyway either oh lord no .

  31. We have an aging population, our birth rate isn’t keeping up and immigrants are a net positive to the economy which is still struggling right now.

    Until somebody can find a way to solve these issues without immigration then every serious political party is going to keep going down this route

  32. Yet I still don’t understand what they look in uk as everything is dysfunctional

  33. the sceptic in me is wondering if this news about to drop has influenced rishi’s snap election?

    sure, they’ve done fuck all about immigration so far, but they do love a soundbite about it

  35. Labour would make uk an islamic state. Look at how lebanon is and any country thats a muslim country how they treat non muslims.

    In malaysia for example non-muslims ethnic chinese and indians are lower tier citizens. Two tier citizenship made in law to bully non muslim immigrants that obtained citizenship.

  36. Walk through a city or an airport and the demographic change from 10 years ago is truly mind boggling, let alone 20 or 30 years ago.

    Honestly, I don’t know how you could even attempt to resolve the issue at this point..

  37. I just gotta love how Britain took back control of the borders.

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