We don’t need to exit ECHR. We only need to repeat that Baltic states do: declare illegal immigrants as a national security threat and ban them. That’s all.
Thank God. Stepping back a commitment to human rights… Where has our self-respect gone?
The Human Rights Act is not the problem. Poor leadership and incompetent politicians are. Don’t let them remove your protections; it’s THE slippery slope.
> The British Government will complete incorporation into Northern Ireland law of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), with direct access to the courts, and remedies for breach of the Convention, including power for the courts to overrule Assembly legislation on grounds of inconsistency
As well as a few additional references to the ECHR further on.
> The High Contracting Parties shall secure **to everyone within their
jurisdiction** the rights and freedoms defined in Section I of this
Convention
Because obviously you don’t want governments to be able to create human rights free zones where the treaty doesn’t apply.
The combination of the two means the UK has to remain party to the ECHR just for Northern Ireland but, because of article 1, can’t apply the ECHR only in Northern Ireland. It’s all or nothing.
I have been saying this all along when people go on about a British Bill of rights etc.
Echr needs to be reformed for today’s problems.
Beyond the fact this was never going to happen before even the last possible election date for legal procedural reasons, the early declaration means it’s entirely buried now.
It is being used as to secure immigration. Let’s not kid ourselves. In 1953 this was never conceived. Same with the Refugee convention. That was a world recovering from the annihilation of WW2. The refugees were Europeans seeking refuge in Europe. The ECHR was all about making sure 1930-1945 never happened again.
Now countries can’t control their own immigration policy. Make no mistake, the UK immigration policy is now outsourced to people smugglers. Your vote is immaterial. They know all about the ECHR.
But the ECHR holds such symbolic value. It won’t be abolished. I predict that ECHR signatories are going to request some kind of carve out to allow control of their borders.
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We don’t need to exit ECHR. We only need to repeat that Baltic states do: declare illegal immigrants as a national security threat and ban them. That’s all.
Thank God. Stepping back a commitment to human rights… Where has our self-respect gone?
The Human Rights Act is not the problem. Poor leadership and incompetent politicians are. Don’t let them remove your protections; it’s THE slippery slope.
Highly likely.
Strand 6 (“Human rights”), article 2 of the [GFA](https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/IE%20GB_980410_Northern%20Ireland%20Agreement.pdf):
> The British Government will complete incorporation into Northern Ireland law of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), with direct access to the courts, and remedies for breach of the Convention, including power for the courts to overrule Assembly legislation on grounds of inconsistency
As well as a few additional references to the ECHR further on.
But article 1 of the [ECHR](https://www.echr.coe.int/documents/d/echr/Convention_ENG) states:
> The High Contracting Parties shall secure **to everyone within their
jurisdiction** the rights and freedoms defined in Section I of this
Convention
Because obviously you don’t want governments to be able to create human rights free zones where the treaty doesn’t apply.
The combination of the two means the UK has to remain party to the ECHR just for Northern Ireland but, because of article 1, can’t apply the ECHR only in Northern Ireland. It’s all or nothing.
I have been saying this all along when people go on about a British Bill of rights etc.
Echr needs to be reformed for today’s problems.
Beyond the fact this was never going to happen before even the last possible election date for legal procedural reasons, the early declaration means it’s entirely buried now.
It is being used as to secure immigration. Let’s not kid ourselves. In 1953 this was never conceived. Same with the Refugee convention. That was a world recovering from the annihilation of WW2. The refugees were Europeans seeking refuge in Europe. The ECHR was all about making sure 1930-1945 never happened again.
Now countries can’t control their own immigration policy. Make no mistake, the UK immigration policy is now outsourced to people smugglers. Your vote is immaterial. They know all about the ECHR.
But the ECHR holds such symbolic value. It won’t be abolished. I predict that ECHR signatories are going to request some kind of carve out to allow control of their borders.