There is definitely a need for skilled chefs, seeing the crap you get served in many restaurants. My biggest irritation is going to get something to eat, and getting my food cooked by a 17 or 18 year old. How can that age be skilled?
We are also short of barbers, supermarket middle management and estate agents. Amongst other equally “essential” occupations, many of which are only the next step up the ladder from an entry level position.
When employers want to offshore software work they don’t sponsor visas to bring them here; it’s done remotely
That might be because a) the tech job market is fucked, and b) we pay devs fuck all compared to other countries.
I’ve complained on here before about junior roles requiring a degree, 1-2 years of self-development, and 2-4 years of commercial experience in 5+ technologies paying ~£1.5k more than a trolley-boy at Tesco (a job that requires _zero_ skill, experience or qualifications).
Plumb that job spec into (for example) the US market and it would make £55-65k.
Probably easier to do software development remotely.
This is hardly a surprise since Web & Software Development was mostly fully remote work since before the Pandemic.
I’m actually surprised these positions are even on this list. Costs like £300 quid to get an Indian dude online to make you an app.
There are so many jobs where they pay so low and rely instead on visas..it’s insane.
The average in my job is probably around 40k. Google says same job in France is 60k, and Germany 80k.
Then you see and 99% of the people hired recently in the UK (for jobs similar to mines) are all from developing countries.
I’m sure the future of tech will continue to be offshored, why pay a dev 50-100k when you can get someone abroad to do the work for a fraction of the price. Especially considering it’s easier to hire a contractor and not faff about with employee benefits like pensions etc..
How did we end up in a low wage economy where every basic skillset (including “driving a van and handing parcels to residents”) is in “shortage”?
Could it be that allowing business to import cheap labour while simultaneously abandoning standards in the state school system, pushing everyone through university on BS courses while saddling them with a lifetime of debt at 18 was a less than optimal socio-economic master plan? Or was it the double whammy of doing that while tearing up trades training and vocational pathways and letting the corporations basically not need to worry about training or developing anyone in favour of sponsoring cheaper alternatives for a work visa; literally as first recourse in many sectors including health and social care.
All calculated to keep wages in the toilet and your son/daughter spending 50%+ of their 30k a year (minus student loan repayment for their degree in organic chemistry) on rent and council tax basically forever.
People got mad or worried or both and voted to end freedom of movement in the hope it might improve their or their kids prospects.
“Our survey said NAH NAH.” They’re just importing them from outside the EU now. Derp.
Good bloody luck to anyone under 30 not set to inherit a house or a wad of cash. You’re going to need it. These are such fundamentally twisted and broken political and economic issues I just can’t see how “things can only get better”. Truly depressing state of the union..
“JavaScript, C++, Python, bla bla bla, all we want to know is can you make a rich but delicate velouté?”
Chef as in capable of working in high end restaurant or chef as in the bloke manning the fryer in Tennessee Fired Chicken?
I’d love to go back into the kitchen but the some way I can see this happening involves paying a lot of private fees for training.
Software engineers in a few years will be extinct. It is the number one job AI is going to take first. And tech companies will love it because their biggest expense by a huge margin is payroll. The golden paydays for devs will come to and end soon.
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There is definitely a need for skilled chefs, seeing the crap you get served in many restaurants. My biggest irritation is going to get something to eat, and getting my food cooked by a 17 or 18 year old. How can that age be skilled?
We are also short of barbers, supermarket middle management and estate agents. Amongst other equally “essential” occupations, many of which are only the next step up the ladder from an entry level position.
When employers want to offshore software work they don’t sponsor visas to bring them here; it’s done remotely
That might be because a) the tech job market is fucked, and b) we pay devs fuck all compared to other countries.
I’ve complained on here before about junior roles requiring a degree, 1-2 years of self-development, and 2-4 years of commercial experience in 5+ technologies paying ~£1.5k more than a trolley-boy at Tesco (a job that requires _zero_ skill, experience or qualifications).
Plumb that job spec into (for example) the US market and it would make £55-65k.
Probably easier to do software development remotely.
Thanks to Priti Patel’s ”vindaloo visa”
[https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9889391/priti-patel-vindaloo-visas-britain-curry-houses/](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9889391/priti-patel-vindaloo-visas-britain-curry-houses/)
This is hardly a surprise since Web & Software Development was mostly fully remote work since before the Pandemic.
I’m actually surprised these positions are even on this list. Costs like £300 quid to get an Indian dude online to make you an app.
There are so many jobs where they pay so low and rely instead on visas..it’s insane.
The average in my job is probably around 40k. Google says same job in France is 60k, and Germany 80k.
Then you see and 99% of the people hired recently in the UK (for jobs similar to mines) are all from developing countries.
I’m sure the future of tech will continue to be offshored, why pay a dev 50-100k when you can get someone abroad to do the work for a fraction of the price. Especially considering it’s easier to hire a contractor and not faff about with employee benefits like pensions etc..
How did we end up in a low wage economy where every basic skillset (including “driving a van and handing parcels to residents”) is in “shortage”?
Could it be that allowing business to import cheap labour while simultaneously abandoning standards in the state school system, pushing everyone through university on BS courses while saddling them with a lifetime of debt at 18 was a less than optimal socio-economic master plan? Or was it the double whammy of doing that while tearing up trades training and vocational pathways and letting the corporations basically not need to worry about training or developing anyone in favour of sponsoring cheaper alternatives for a work visa; literally as first recourse in many sectors including health and social care.
All calculated to keep wages in the toilet and your son/daughter spending 50%+ of their 30k a year (minus student loan repayment for their degree in organic chemistry) on rent and council tax basically forever.
People got mad or worried or both and voted to end freedom of movement in the hope it might improve their or their kids prospects.
“Our survey said NAH NAH.” They’re just importing them from outside the EU now. Derp.
Good bloody luck to anyone under 30 not set to inherit a house or a wad of cash. You’re going to need it. These are such fundamentally twisted and broken political and economic issues I just can’t see how “things can only get better”. Truly depressing state of the union..
“JavaScript, C++, Python, bla bla bla, all we want to know is can you make a rich but delicate velouté?”
Chef as in capable of working in high end restaurant or chef as in the bloke manning the fryer in Tennessee Fired Chicken?
I’d love to go back into the kitchen but the some way I can see this happening involves paying a lot of private fees for training.
Software engineers in a few years will be extinct. It is the number one job AI is going to take first. And tech companies will love it because their biggest expense by a huge margin is payroll. The golden paydays for devs will come to and end soon.