Medienbericht: Baltische Staaten und Polen könnten im Falle eines russischen Erfolgs Truppen in die Ukraine entsenden

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1. I support this. Defending the border with Mordor is extremely important for European security.

2. I am calling bullshit on this particular article, as it’s from a ukrainian source and NOT from politicians of those countries, and this particular website is… Well, let me just say it’s the first time I ever see it.

   But if Baltics or Poland do send troops, well, they wouldn’t be under NATO protection, NATO is ultimately a defensive alliance, and this would be getting into an active war to support one side. In fact if say Poland started using it’s air bases, and Russia was striking them, I don’t think this would be Article 5 territory, in fact I am pretty sure it wouldn’t be. And if Trump is elected, he would definitely see it as Poland getting involved in the war, not as Russia attacking NATO member. In a way, Russia might actually want this, as this gives possible exit for countries like the US to not get involved in yet another European war that turns to world war.

3. If the article were true, which it probably isn’t, Poland and any other nations launching a war of aggression would be on their own.

4. For these countries there’d be 2 options if Russia starts to win: 

   1. Get involved with the current war to prevent Russia from winning 
   2. Wait for the inevitable Russian invasion of their countries  

   That’s a very, very easy choice. 

5. Good. Western Europe needs to wake the fuck up too. Russia only understands one thing.

6. Part of the reason Russia has invaded Ukraine is to have a buffer between their core territory and NATO. Has been part of Russia’s strategy for centuries. The Northern European plain has no natural defensive barriers so the strategy is to put as much land and distance between the enemy and themselves.

   But keep in mind that is also true for Poland. And centuries of history has taught the Polish that very well. If Ukraine falls, Russia is at their door step with no natural defensive lines between them.

7. NATO or some group of nations ought to take over guard at Belarus – Ukraine border. Shortening the potential front, while not participating in the shooting war, unless Russians decide to make it so.

8. As a Western European, I am glad we got Germany, Baltic States and Poland inbetween. I really hope we can turn this around

9. Noone will deploy them unless its Nato mission. All those articles are dumb, same as the ones about Poland shooting down the missies.

10. The fact of the matter is that western fear of escalation LEADS TO ESCALATION.

    Either because the Russians reach their goal, incorporate Ukraine, and seek the next target (remember: Putin reigns by externalizing internal violence, he stabilizes his regime with foreign wars).

    Or because we will be forced to intervene directly.

    If we had ramped up weapons production and deliveries in 2022, and allowed them to attack Russia as they deem it necessary, the Ukrainians would have been able to be the only boots needed on the ground. But if it goes like now, we will need to send troops sooner or later, or face above mentioned scenario of another Russian war of conquest, this time with the Russian army plus 500,000 new Ukrainian soldiers.

    Putin will never be satisfied. He even says it quite plainly by stating that Russia has no borders.

11. With emphasis on “may”.

12. Idk about Baltic states, but regarding Poland this is obviously a fake news.

    Polish PM explicitely and publicily ruled aut sending Polish troops to Ukraine.

    [https://businessinsider.com.pl/wiadomosci/byly-minister-mowi-co-musialoby-sie-stac-zeby-polska-armia-pomogla-ukrainie/cby5d84](https://businessinsider.com.pl/wiadomosci/byly-minister-mowi-co-musialoby-sie-stac-zeby-polska-armia-pomogla-ukrainie/cby5d84)

    Sending Polish soldiers to Ukraine even in some non-combat role would be extremely unpopular in Poland, let alone sending them for actual fighting. There is not a single political party in Poland that would support such move.

    So I wonder, why such fake news are emerging in this particular time.

13. Why wait until Russia succeeds?

14. The only things Russia “successfully” did are unite Ukraine with the rest of Eastern Europe, and create a Ukrainian national identity. They’ll never be able to absorb or permanently occupy the territory now. 

15. Good. This is how you could’ve prevent WWII to spill out.

16. Why wait for them to capture more cities, subject the people there to barbarism, and plant mines that will kill and disfigure people for decades?

    Are we paying attention? Russia is sending “Russian” kids to North fucking Korea.

17. Just do it now instead

18. Still think that Ukraine should have just invaded Poland at the start of Russia’s invasion, triggering Article 5, get invaded, be put under NATO control and then have it given back to them, nothing Russia would want to touch with a 10foot pole

19. In big shortcut Baltics and Poland want to persuade Germany to be more supportive to Ukraine, because if they lose they will be war with Nato. 

20. Yes, let’s just keep pushing for ww3. So much fun