>Dublin Children’s Court heard today that the 16-year-old boy had disobeyed his terms 14 times since the end of April.
14 times in 2 months and he’s getting another chance and isnt being locked up. Granted the lad had not picked up any new charges, but he BROKE BAIL!
Fuck this country and its judicial system.
Knows well there’ll be no consequences.
“I promise, Judge, I will be better; I will not break bail conditions; I’m going to listen to every last thing you said,”
Those other 14 times were an accident, I’ll definitely be a good boy now.
No wonder these little wastes of space have no respect for anything or anyone.
Zero fucks given
I’ve said it before, if I got my shot at Minister for Justice, I will bring a flavour of Spanish style street crime to Dublin.
Or clone a few copies of Lugs Brannigan.
The inner city of Dublin has been a lawless kip since at least when the drugs came in in the late 70s. I’m aware that it wasn’t the best place in the world before then, with the Monto and the various street gangs going back into the early modern period, but it really took a downturn in the late 70s and the 80s and it has only accelerated in the same downwards direction. One of the best things my family ever did was applying for a transfer and get out of town. The woman they transferred with wanted to move back into the flats in town. Her husband was a member of the vintage cars club in Crumlin. Within a week it was on cinderblocks and a burnt out husk. That happened almost 50 years ago.
It’s difficult to grasp for some people the true extent to which the people who don’t have to deal with the antisocial behaviour and crime in Dublin simply don’t give a shit. I’m only in my 20s and it has been a rate of change noticeable enough that I’ve been aware of it during my lifetime. Dublin has a feeling of decline. The decline goes back at least to 1800/1801 when the Act of Union was passed and the richest ~450 people on the island of Ireland, who had made up the parliament on College Green, left Dublin and went to London, taking their money with them. Dublin before this was a centre of craftsmanship and the second city of the British Empire (not that I think the British Empire was a good thing, the point is that Dublin was a prominent city in terms of money and trade) and a European capital of finely crafted goods, small things such as watches and clocks. Overnight much of the demand evaporated and the slow rot of decline began to set in. “Streets” (lanes) such as Johnson’s Court beside Saint Theresa’s Church on Clarendon Street are all that remain of that now.
As someone who has traced his ancestry back in Dublin for centuries and whose ancestors were most likely here before the famine, it would be nice for someone to treat Dublin as anything more than the wealth extraction funnel it has been since the British took an interest in the place. Not having to deal with rampant and totally unchecked antisocial behaviour, violence, crime and drug epidemics would be a nice start. I really don’t see a positive future in the short to medium term, the problem has gotten so bad that our useless and incompetent police force are not equipped to deal with it, even if they overnight suddenly decided that they wanted to.
>Counsel said the teen had not picked up new charges, and revocation of bail could result in a lengthy period in detention on remand pending trial.
The court heard that he had an educational placement and was involved in a community programme for young people.
His barrister pleaded with the court to give him another chance to prove himself and to note the boy’s mental health had been affected.
Counsel said he wasnt caught doing anything illegal other than breaking the conditions of bail so implementing the consquences of those actions would result in him suffering those consequences. we put him in some community schemes because we think this will impress you judge.. give him another chance because he is really upset this time that his actions might have consequences..
What a defence. i mean these lads where very close to manslaughter. the prison service say they dont have prisoner long enough to reform them, these lads should not be comming out unless they have Ph.D’s
Why are you not immediately put in prison upon breaking bail?
If you break bail once you should lose bail, that’s it. Bail is an agreement that you get to be out on your own recognizance on the condition you don’t fuck around. You fuck around? You no longer get to be out. No second, third, 15th fucking chances.
Seriously, the law is a joke. We have people going to court for serious assault, for armed charges, expecting they can get away with suspended sentences and breaking bail and that being a reasonable expectation.
Well look, give him another chance, not like he will grow up to be a scumbag with 700 convictions in his 20s…
Lucky number 15
Feral wee shit
Little cunts like this deserve to get a hiding, and then thrown in prison proper. But they know rightly that nothing will be done, so they do as they like. And there are many more like him about, and they’re only multiplying
Can we not sure dump them on an island off the coast and forget about them?
Why so soft? Dublin (and other cities) has a feral youth problem and these scrotes almost murdered a man.
Only 14 times, those are rookie numbers, Judge Nolan will be very unhappy.
Apart from the obvious (that he should be put into custody), the parents need to be held accountable here as well. They’re obviously doing sweet f all to rein little Johnny in.
Damn dosent seem like Ireland is fairing any better these days
Still like to visit even tho I’d be mark as a target for simply being American
Still a beautiful country none the less
I lived in Ireland between 2015 and 2017 and teenagers scared me so much that I had with me pepper spray all the time. I’d have gladly gone to jail for spraying one those little sh*ts. And yes, I knew it was illegal to have it.
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>Dublin Children’s Court heard today that the 16-year-old boy had disobeyed his terms 14 times since the end of April.
14 times in 2 months and he’s getting another chance and isnt being locked up. Granted the lad had not picked up any new charges, but he BROKE BAIL!
Fuck this country and its judicial system.
Knows well there’ll be no consequences.
“I promise, Judge, I will be better; I will not break bail conditions; I’m going to listen to every last thing you said,”
Those other 14 times were an accident, I’ll definitely be a good boy now.
No wonder these little wastes of space have no respect for anything or anyone.
Zero fucks given
I’ve said it before, if I got my shot at Minister for Justice, I will bring a flavour of Spanish style street crime to Dublin.
Or clone a few copies of Lugs Brannigan.
The inner city of Dublin has been a lawless kip since at least when the drugs came in in the late 70s. I’m aware that it wasn’t the best place in the world before then, with the Monto and the various street gangs going back into the early modern period, but it really took a downturn in the late 70s and the 80s and it has only accelerated in the same downwards direction. One of the best things my family ever did was applying for a transfer and get out of town. The woman they transferred with wanted to move back into the flats in town. Her husband was a member of the vintage cars club in Crumlin. Within a week it was on cinderblocks and a burnt out husk. That happened almost 50 years ago.
It’s difficult to grasp for some people the true extent to which the people who don’t have to deal with the antisocial behaviour and crime in Dublin simply don’t give a shit. I’m only in my 20s and it has been a rate of change noticeable enough that I’ve been aware of it during my lifetime. Dublin has a feeling of decline. The decline goes back at least to 1800/1801 when the Act of Union was passed and the richest ~450 people on the island of Ireland, who had made up the parliament on College Green, left Dublin and went to London, taking their money with them. Dublin before this was a centre of craftsmanship and the second city of the British Empire (not that I think the British Empire was a good thing, the point is that Dublin was a prominent city in terms of money and trade) and a European capital of finely crafted goods, small things such as watches and clocks. Overnight much of the demand evaporated and the slow rot of decline began to set in. “Streets” (lanes) such as Johnson’s Court beside Saint Theresa’s Church on Clarendon Street are all that remain of that now.
As someone who has traced his ancestry back in Dublin for centuries and whose ancestors were most likely here before the famine, it would be nice for someone to treat Dublin as anything more than the wealth extraction funnel it has been since the British took an interest in the place. Not having to deal with rampant and totally unchecked antisocial behaviour, violence, crime and drug epidemics would be a nice start. I really don’t see a positive future in the short to medium term, the problem has gotten so bad that our useless and incompetent police force are not equipped to deal with it, even if they overnight suddenly decided that they wanted to.
>Counsel said the teen had not picked up new charges, and revocation of bail could result in a lengthy period in detention on remand pending trial.
The court heard that he had an educational placement and was involved in a community programme for young people.
His barrister pleaded with the court to give him another chance to prove himself and to note the boy’s mental health had been affected.
Counsel said he wasnt caught doing anything illegal other than breaking the conditions of bail so implementing the consquences of those actions would result in him suffering those consequences. we put him in some community schemes because we think this will impress you judge.. give him another chance because he is really upset this time that his actions might have consequences..
What a defence. i mean these lads where very close to manslaughter. the prison service say they dont have prisoner long enough to reform them, these lads should not be comming out unless they have Ph.D’s
Why are you not immediately put in prison upon breaking bail?
If you break bail once you should lose bail, that’s it. Bail is an agreement that you get to be out on your own recognizance on the condition you don’t fuck around. You fuck around? You no longer get to be out. No second, third, 15th fucking chances.
Seriously, the law is a joke. We have people going to court for serious assault, for armed charges, expecting they can get away with suspended sentences and breaking bail and that being a reasonable expectation.
Well look, give him another chance, not like he will grow up to be a scumbag with 700 convictions in his 20s…
Lucky number 15
Feral wee shit
Little cunts like this deserve to get a hiding, and then thrown in prison proper. But they know rightly that nothing will be done, so they do as they like. And there are many more like him about, and they’re only multiplying
Can we not sure dump them on an island off the coast and forget about them?
Why so soft? Dublin (and other cities) has a feral youth problem and these scrotes almost murdered a man.
Only 14 times, those are rookie numbers, Judge Nolan will be very unhappy.
To make things even more annoying there are only 48 beds in [Oberstown Detention Centre](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/youth-avoids-oberstown-detention-as-judge-told-no-beds-today-1.2773062#:~:text=The%2048%2Dbed%20Oberstown%20Children,for%20offenders%20aged%20under%2017.) Therefore if there are more than 48 juveniles in custody for the whole country then there’s nowhere to put pricks like this
Apart from the obvious (that he should be put into custody), the parents need to be held accountable here as well. They’re obviously doing sweet f all to rein little Johnny in.
Damn dosent seem like Ireland is fairing any better these days
Still like to visit even tho I’d be mark as a target for simply being American
Still a beautiful country none the less
I lived in Ireland between 2015 and 2017 and teenagers scared me so much that I had with me pepper spray all the time. I’d have gladly gone to jail for spraying one those little sh*ts. And yes, I knew it was illegal to have it.