Jesus fuck that sounds awful. I didn’t realise hernias could get to that size.
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It sounds a bit like it was the administration staff that wouldn’t help him rather than the GP.
Attending my GP’s office is like being stuck in the opening scene of a customer service training video.
In general GPs are going to come out of the panic looking very bad indeed.
Great – not only has a poor man lost his life because of our dire, cash strapped NHS, the taxpayers are now going to have to front a huge bill in the inevitable compensation that the family is going to receive.
I would love to know why he was sent away considering his stomach looked like that.
>A spokeswoman for the Midlock said: “We are not going to comment on any of that information.”
I can literally hear the surly receptionist saying it.
Christ. There needs to be a serious investigation into that, and those responsible held to account. They may have not been able to do much long term, but fuck me they should of at least given him the courtesy of seeing him and prescribing some serious pain medication.
This is why I flat out don’t trust GPs.
I’ve had one GP adamantly telling me that a lump was “not a tumour and [I] don’t know what [I’m] talking about”. Surgeon who I finally managed to get a referral to took one look at it and was like “yeah that’s a tumour, I’m scheduling you for surgery as soon as possible”
It was benign, thankfully, but if it wasn’t….
The GP practice has now earned itself some lovely bad publicity.
Someone should be struck off.
I tore an abdominal muscle at work, that was heading to a hernia, and I have a scary high tolerance to pain. It felt like I got shot in the abdomen, and I was doubled over and yelling. That’s a HORRIBLE way to die.
Of course there’s people in this thread suggesting it was somehow his fault.
Not a fan of GPs at all, every member of staff seems to have been trained to treat their patients like dribbling morons who can’t tell their arse from their head.
GPs in the UK are dismissive as fuck. I genuinely think it’s just something they have developed to cut down on their workload.
My wife nearly died when she had a perianal abscess. She must have seen three different GPs about it, and all of them dismissed it as either “nothing” or “something that will go away by itself.”
After a few weeks of this, I came home one night from work and my wife was in absolutely agony. She was crying from the pain. She asked me to take her to A&E. She was in so much pain she couldn’t even sit in the car properly. She had to lie down without a seat belt on, like Boris hiding from the press, because she was in that much pain. After wait four hours to see someone, the doctor basically diagnosed it straight away and got her in for surgery.
I can’t even remember the exact amount of pus that was in there, but it must have been a considerable amount. The doctor told her she would have died had it burst by itself.
Her mother, who has been a nurse since the 80s, told her she should sue the NHS for malpractice. We never did, but we probably should have done. The A&E staff were great, but the GPS were negligent as fuck!
Poor soul. I can partially relate to this. I’ve lost years of my life due to doctor incompetence, ignorance and arrogance.
Government employees going full Karen on a dying citizen.
Who would have expected this?
My father had a problem with his GP a couple of years ago, he kept complaining about being short of breath but the doctor just played it off saying his asthma was the problem, through arguing we got a second opinion and it turned out to be pneumonia, that useless prick could have killed my father just because he didn’t want to admit he was wrong
Ok after reading the article it seems GP sent him away because he was a being abusive to staff. The whole case seems pretty tragic.
Stop blaming him. He died so had a reason to go to the doctor, they couldnt do anymore for him after the last operation doesnt mean they couldnt help or nothing had changed. If he was in a piss or rude – do you blame him?
My GP surgery is similar. I had a serious (non painful) issue. I had to email them (e consult) to ask for an appointment. I get triaged by a nurse who says i need an appointment. I ring for an appointment – we dont have anything. “is there anything i can do?” no. They ring back and say i need an appointment I ring for an appointment again – we dont have anything. “is there anything i can do?” no. I get annoyed, put the phone down. Office manager rings and apologises We can do a telephone appointment – too late Ive arranged something through private medical insurance. I need an op. She also explained the patients need to be educated on how to access there service. I suggested its the staff that need educating.
Second thing happens – “have some painkillers”, ongoing serious pain issue, can i get a scan? No, no point, have some painkillers – have those they dont work. “i’m only trying to help” No your not, your trying to fob me off with some painkillers, and not spend money. And so it goes on. Friend is describing symptons to another friend – an anesthetist, “he needs a scan, thats ridiculous”
Probably from the same school of medicine as the doctor who told my mum she had a slipped disc for 2 years – secondary bone cancer. Or the 5 doctors who said there was nothing wrong with me when i had pneumonia.
Just because we love the idea of the NHS doesnt mean its without fault. They are underfunded and under resourced but that doesnt mean some arent incompetent, lazy, or basically a bit crap.
Also try NHS111 or go to A&E if you dont feel they are taking you seriously.
I read a thing earlier that said that doctors in the U.K. misdiagnose around 60% of cancers in the first instance.
I then read that GPs are more likely to misdiagnose if the patient is outspoken, ‘belligerent’ etc. Honestly GPs in the U.K. can get the fuck over themselves. This literally says to me when a patient tries to advocate for them selves, arrogant doctors tell them to F off and Bar them. Yes google cannot diagnose illness, but patients are a little more informed now, and should be able to advocate for themselves. I know the guy didn’t have cancer, but it’s the same type of thing.
On a side note the UKs cancer record is not good. Only 50% of patients survive, in the US it’s nearly 70%.
Fuck me that’s just an awful, awful way to die. I can’t even imagine the pain he must’ve been in. That poor man.
The guy that stabbed him needs his charge upgrading to murder.
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Scary to think that a guy could get stabbed in the gut and even nine years after the attack it’s still a mortal wound that cannot be healed even with multiple surgeries.
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The pain must have been unbelievable. Can understand him losing his temper.
Ah yes, just about time for Reddit’s “GPs are all 100% shit” echo chamber. Was wondering how long it’d be.
Jesus. Poor lad. I hope his family will find some peace (and compensation) soon. Can’t imagine finding a family member like that.
My husband was also almost killed by dismissive cunts years back. He had stomach pain, nausea and general unwellness for a long time, but the GPs kept dismissing him with “stomach bug” or “food poisoning” or whatever the fuck else. Then one day he collapsed on the street. Ambulance was called, yet still the EMTs tried to dismiss it with same bloody excuses.
After practically bullying them into taking him to the hospital, the doctor glanced him over without proper exam and told him to go home, drink some fluids and come back in a few days. At this point my hubby had had it, and told them he’s not going anywhere because he knows something is very wrong, and he’ll sit there until someone sees him. For 12 hours he hung about, and finally someone took him in, examined him, and he was rushed to surgery because his appendix had burst. The doctor told his mum when he was in recovery that he had “come very, very close”.
Funnily enough, he doesn’t have much faith in doctors these days.
Lots of people with absolutely no knowledge and strong opinions.
Less heat and more light is required here.
Not all GPs are great, not all nurses are saints, and not all patients are nice people or need the treatment they demand.
If he was threatened with removal from the surgery it’s likely he was abusive towards staff and the NHS has a zero tolerance policy to abuse. It’s the only reason we can refuse to treat someone. The only reason. So all you have to do to get treatment is not be abusive. All the staff will be working with finite resources that cannot keep up with demand. Most people have no conception how thinly stretched things are and still expect their GP surgery to see them for an appointment. On top of which there are some, not many, but some staff in all parts of the NHS who are useless, lazy, incompetent or just nasty. It’s a tiny minority because most staff are still motivated by the desire to try and help people, even when patients go out of their way to sabotage their own care.
I suspect this is a combination of shortage of resources, and the patient refusing treatment offered either because they didn’t want to wait or they didn’t follow advice.
I would be surprised if the GP just refused care for no reason or did not advise the patient to access another service. i would be surprised if the hospital told the patient they could not help in any way or advised the patient to access another service.
The chances of two independent services refusing treatment for no reason is unlikely.
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Jesus fuck that sounds awful. I didn’t realise hernias could get to that size.
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It sounds a bit like it was the administration staff that wouldn’t help him rather than the GP.
Attending my GP’s office is like being stuck in the opening scene of a customer service training video.
In general GPs are going to come out of the panic looking very bad indeed.
Great – not only has a poor man lost his life because of our dire, cash strapped NHS, the taxpayers are now going to have to front a huge bill in the inevitable compensation that the family is going to receive.
I would love to know why he was sent away considering his stomach looked like that.
>A spokeswoman for the Midlock said: “We are not going to comment on any of that information.”
I can literally hear the surly receptionist saying it.
Christ. There needs to be a serious investigation into that, and those responsible held to account. They may have not been able to do much long term, but fuck me they should of at least given him the courtesy of seeing him and prescribing some serious pain medication.
This is why I flat out don’t trust GPs.
I’ve had one GP adamantly telling me that a lump was “not a tumour and [I] don’t know what [I’m] talking about”. Surgeon who I finally managed to get a referral to took one look at it and was like “yeah that’s a tumour, I’m scheduling you for surgery as soon as possible”
It was benign, thankfully, but if it wasn’t….
The GP practice has now earned itself some lovely bad publicity.
Someone should be struck off.
I tore an abdominal muscle at work, that was heading to a hernia, and I have a scary high tolerance to pain. It felt like I got shot in the abdomen, and I was doubled over and yelling. That’s a HORRIBLE way to die.
Of course there’s people in this thread suggesting it was somehow his fault.
Not a fan of GPs at all, every member of staff seems to have been trained to treat their patients like dribbling morons who can’t tell their arse from their head.
GPs in the UK are dismissive as fuck. I genuinely think it’s just something they have developed to cut down on their workload.
My wife nearly died when she had a perianal abscess. She must have seen three different GPs about it, and all of them dismissed it as either “nothing” or “something that will go away by itself.”
After a few weeks of this, I came home one night from work and my wife was in absolutely agony. She was crying from the pain. She asked me to take her to A&E. She was in so much pain she couldn’t even sit in the car properly. She had to lie down without a seat belt on, like Boris hiding from the press, because she was in that much pain. After wait four hours to see someone, the doctor basically diagnosed it straight away and got her in for surgery.
I can’t even remember the exact amount of pus that was in there, but it must have been a considerable amount. The doctor told her she would have died had it burst by itself.
Her mother, who has been a nurse since the 80s, told her she should sue the NHS for malpractice. We never did, but we probably should have done. The A&E staff were great, but the GPS were negligent as fuck!
Poor soul. I can partially relate to this. I’ve lost years of my life due to doctor incompetence, ignorance and arrogance.
Government employees going full Karen on a dying citizen.
Who would have expected this?
My father had a problem with his GP a couple of years ago, he kept complaining about being short of breath but the doctor just played it off saying his asthma was the problem, through arguing we got a second opinion and it turned out to be pneumonia, that useless prick could have killed my father just because he didn’t want to admit he was wrong
Ok after reading the article it seems GP sent him away because he was a being abusive to staff. The whole case seems pretty tragic.
Stop blaming him. He died so had a reason to go to the doctor, they couldnt do anymore for him after the last operation doesnt mean they couldnt help or nothing had changed. If he was in a piss or rude – do you blame him?
My GP surgery is similar. I had a serious (non painful) issue. I had to email them (e consult) to ask for an appointment. I get triaged by a nurse who says i need an appointment. I ring for an appointment – we dont have anything. “is there anything i can do?” no. They ring back and say i need an appointment I ring for an appointment again – we dont have anything. “is there anything i can do?” no. I get annoyed, put the phone down. Office manager rings and apologises We can do a telephone appointment – too late Ive arranged something through private medical insurance. I need an op. She also explained the patients need to be educated on how to access there service. I suggested its the staff that need educating.
Second thing happens – “have some painkillers”, ongoing serious pain issue, can i get a scan? No, no point, have some painkillers – have those they dont work. “i’m only trying to help” No your not, your trying to fob me off with some painkillers, and not spend money. And so it goes on. Friend is describing symptons to another friend – an anesthetist, “he needs a scan, thats ridiculous”
Probably from the same school of medicine as the doctor who told my mum she had a slipped disc for 2 years – secondary bone cancer. Or the 5 doctors who said there was nothing wrong with me when i had pneumonia.
Just because we love the idea of the NHS doesnt mean its without fault. They are underfunded and under resourced but that doesnt mean some arent incompetent, lazy, or basically a bit crap.
Also try NHS111 or go to A&E if you dont feel they are taking you seriously.
I read a thing earlier that said that doctors in the U.K. misdiagnose around 60% of cancers in the first instance.
I then read that GPs are more likely to misdiagnose if the patient is outspoken, ‘belligerent’ etc. Honestly GPs in the U.K. can get the fuck over themselves. This literally says to me when a patient tries to advocate for them selves, arrogant doctors tell them to F off and Bar them. Yes google cannot diagnose illness, but patients are a little more informed now, and should be able to advocate for themselves. I know the guy didn’t have cancer, but it’s the same type of thing.
On a side note the UKs cancer record is not good. Only 50% of patients survive, in the US it’s nearly 70%.
Some [sources](https://www.patientclaimline.com/expert-information/why-cancer-misdiagnosis/) and [here](https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics-for-the-uk)
Fuck me that’s just an awful, awful way to die. I can’t even imagine the pain he must’ve been in. That poor man.
The guy that stabbed him needs his charge upgrading to murder.
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Scary to think that a guy could get stabbed in the gut and even nine years after the attack it’s still a mortal wound that cannot be healed even with multiple surgeries.
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The pain must have been unbelievable. Can understand him losing his temper.
Ah yes, just about time for Reddit’s “GPs are all 100% shit” echo chamber. Was wondering how long it’d be.
Jesus. Poor lad. I hope his family will find some peace (and compensation) soon. Can’t imagine finding a family member like that.
My husband was also almost killed by dismissive cunts years back. He had stomach pain, nausea and general unwellness for a long time, but the GPs kept dismissing him with “stomach bug” or “food poisoning” or whatever the fuck else. Then one day he collapsed on the street. Ambulance was called, yet still the EMTs tried to dismiss it with same bloody excuses.
After practically bullying them into taking him to the hospital, the doctor glanced him over without proper exam and told him to go home, drink some fluids and come back in a few days. At this point my hubby had had it, and told them he’s not going anywhere because he knows something is very wrong, and he’ll sit there until someone sees him. For 12 hours he hung about, and finally someone took him in, examined him, and he was rushed to surgery because his appendix had burst. The doctor told his mum when he was in recovery that he had “come very, very close”.
Funnily enough, he doesn’t have much faith in doctors these days.
Lots of people with absolutely no knowledge and strong opinions.
Less heat and more light is required here.
Not all GPs are great, not all nurses are saints, and not all patients are nice people or need the treatment they demand.
If he was threatened with removal from the surgery it’s likely he was abusive towards staff and the NHS has a zero tolerance policy to abuse. It’s the only reason we can refuse to treat someone. The only reason. So all you have to do to get treatment is not be abusive. All the staff will be working with finite resources that cannot keep up with demand. Most people have no conception how thinly stretched things are and still expect their GP surgery to see them for an appointment. On top of which there are some, not many, but some staff in all parts of the NHS who are useless, lazy, incompetent or just nasty. It’s a tiny minority because most staff are still motivated by the desire to try and help people, even when patients go out of their way to sabotage their own care.
I suspect this is a combination of shortage of resources, and the patient refusing treatment offered either because they didn’t want to wait or they didn’t follow advice.
I would be surprised if the GP just refused care for no reason or did not advise the patient to access another service. i would be surprised if the hospital told the patient they could not help in any way or advised the patient to access another service.
The chances of two independent services refusing treatment for no reason is unlikely.