Little, if anything, will change. It’s really not the monarch’s call.
I have a feeling that Charles will either abdicate or have a very short reign so he can pass reigns to William.
What does he mean members of the royal family behave ‘like’ freeloaders?!
What else are they?
The Queen has been very dignified in her life, especially in the last few years but you can’t put her offspring in the same category she is in.
When she passes the country seriously needs to think about what it wants to be and look like in the future.
IMO it’s a large threat for the royal family . Let’s be honest even non royalist have a certain level of respect for the queen. Not so sure if they’ll feel the same for William / Charles.
Good luck trying to modernise a fudal hangover! I think I read 85% of the country can only remember the Queen being head of state. There’s a in built “always been there” apathy to it all. When it’s someone who has been involved in scandal or even just growing up in front of the full glare of the media people are going to have far more opinions than they do about the current head of the family…
I doubt it. For most people it won’t have much impact. Charles isn’t loved, but he’s not hated either. Andrew’s activities are far more likely to rock the boat, hence the Crown stripping his titles
Hopefully we can have a referendum on whether or not to actually keep them or not.
Not that I want her to die, but I am looking forward to the aftermath of her death. The whole royal institution, lords and all, should be dismantled.
In what regard?
Prince William will take the throne. He’s by far the cleanest and most beloved royal in line for the throne. Charles is getting a bit old, Andrew is a disgraced nonce and Harry is on bad terms with his family because of how they mistreated Meghan Markle.
As much as this subreddit loves to shit on the Windsors and act like the country hates them too, we all know that Elizabeth’s death would be mourned by the nation for weeks.
I don’t like the monarchy in regards to necessarily who some of the people are, the fact some just get a cushy paycheck for who they are born. I also think the queens life isn’t what its put up to be, I wouldnt want to be her and think she has been an amazing service to the country. Others no.
I like having a monarchy when you see the ways democracy can be eroded in parts of the world. It makes it that tiny bit harder. I think people forget that part. An elected official in the same capacity isn’t the same.
It’s a fair comment.
However the role of the royals is already anachronistic – Harry was very perceptive in realizing this.
The old world has slipped away, more so in the last decade and half with the rise of the Internet giants.
We are now entering the techno-feudalism era.
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Hopefully she’ll apologise to Ireland and withdraw her goons from our country and leave us in peace for once. Deathbed regret and reparation. https://i.imgur.com/bcNa2VJ.jpg
We need to ban the independent as a source of news here. Apart from the website being shit, the fact you have to register to read the articles leads to about 90% of the commenters not having read the bloody thing, which is usually a shit show
Her very Lowness with her head in a sling
I’m truely sorry but it sounds like a wonderful thing
My pronouncement is that when the Queen dies it will be announced that she is the end of the royal family in England. It’s time.
What is Britain without a royal family?
Logically I am Republican however my heart feels Britain would lose its soul if it became a republic.
The concept of “Royal Families” is a cancer on humanity, and should be consigned to the history books.
The age of kings and queens is over. Enough pandering to “special” people who deserve shit all.
The British media will have a field day most of us won’t give a shite , it will be like Diana all over again, yes and we will be inundated with wailing royalists and those on the bandwagon with their fake tears.
When queeny pops her clogs the it’s time for a republic. Having a royal family is outdated and having to pay even a penny toward them is repugnant.
The Queen, by all accounts, is not a nice, moral, or warm person (see: the way she treated Diana for daring to deviate even slightly from the prison-like protocols of Royal behaviour, the complete lack of sensitivity towards her own grandchildren regarding Dianas death and funeral, the way she has utterly refused to ever take a moral stance on any issue in the entire 70 years of her reign, and the generally unpleasant and self-involved character of all of her children). She was raised in a fucking strange way; every person she encountered since birth being forced to be extremely formal and deeply deferential to her; educated largely in solitude by weird, incredibly posh, religion and tradition-obsessed flunkys, and educated specifically ‘to be a monarch’, whatever the fuck that means. Her own parents would have been distant and remote, living incredibly stifled and also somewhat secretive (affairs, scandals, and so on) lives and probably never demonstrating much of anything that any of us would recognise as familial love. Her peculiar status has left her with a life almost completely devoid of true friendship (perhaps only Prince Philip?), privacy, and really of anything resembling a healthy relationship. In the time since her coronation, our country has undergone such massive societal and cultural changes (while her own world has remained almost completely static), that our lives are almost incomprehensible to her. She has been left trapped in this very strange, isolated, frigid and deeply antiquated little relic, a kind of slow-living museum whose purpose is only weakly and ambiguously defined, and whose importance has decreased with every passing year. Fuck the monarchy, it sucks for them, it does nothing for us; it has no place in a civilised, 21st century society.
>But the reason it is not being questioned is because of the Queen herself.
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Bollocks. It’s because of rules and laws that make the UK entirely undemocratic.
It’s hilarious how so many people on here are saying ‘get rid of them’ with zero discussion about what they would be replaced with. Which is precisely why Brexit is such a gigantic mess. While the monarchy isn’t perfect, I greatly doubt what would replace it would be better.
Jeez when she dies the public mourning is going to be insufferable. Remember all the hysteria and grief when Tom Moore died last year? And someone got in trouble for partying the weekend that a Prince died (can’t remember his name) last spring?
You can tell I pay zero attention to the royal family.
I’m sure the establishment will coronate someone new ASAP but in reality it should be a referendum question imo.
Do you want to keep subsidising a family at significant cost to live in luxury and attend lavish events meeting powerful people while vetoeing and amending any law that could impact them and their murky tax system or should that money be better spent elsewhere?
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Little, if anything, will change. It’s really not the monarch’s call.
I have a feeling that Charles will either abdicate or have a very short reign so he can pass reigns to William.
What does he mean members of the royal family behave ‘like’ freeloaders?!
What else are they?
The Queen has been very dignified in her life, especially in the last few years but you can’t put her offspring in the same category she is in.
When she passes the country seriously needs to think about what it wants to be and look like in the future.
IMO it’s a large threat for the royal family . Let’s be honest even non royalist have a certain level of respect for the queen. Not so sure if they’ll feel the same for William / Charles.
Good luck trying to modernise a fudal hangover! I think I read 85% of the country can only remember the Queen being head of state. There’s a in built “always been there” apathy to it all. When it’s someone who has been involved in scandal or even just growing up in front of the full glare of the media people are going to have far more opinions than they do about the current head of the family…
I doubt it. For most people it won’t have much impact. Charles isn’t loved, but he’s not hated either. Andrew’s activities are far more likely to rock the boat, hence the Crown stripping his titles
Hopefully we can have a referendum on whether or not to actually keep them or not.
Not that I want her to die, but I am looking forward to the aftermath of her death. The whole royal institution, lords and all, should be dismantled.
In what regard?
Prince William will take the throne. He’s by far the cleanest and most beloved royal in line for the throne. Charles is getting a bit old, Andrew is a disgraced nonce and Harry is on bad terms with his family because of how they mistreated Meghan Markle.
As much as this subreddit loves to shit on the Windsors and act like the country hates them too, we all know that Elizabeth’s death would be mourned by the nation for weeks.
I don’t like the monarchy in regards to necessarily who some of the people are, the fact some just get a cushy paycheck for who they are born. I also think the queens life isn’t what its put up to be, I wouldnt want to be her and think she has been an amazing service to the country. Others no.
I like having a monarchy when you see the ways democracy can be eroded in parts of the world. It makes it that tiny bit harder. I think people forget that part. An elected official in the same capacity isn’t the same.
It’s a fair comment.
However the role of the royals is already anachronistic – Harry was very perceptive in realizing this.
The old world has slipped away, more so in the last decade and half with the rise of the Internet giants.
We are now entering the techno-feudalism era.
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Hopefully she’ll apologise to Ireland and withdraw her goons from our country and leave us in peace for once. Deathbed regret and reparation.
https://i.imgur.com/bcNa2VJ.jpg
We need to ban the independent as a source of news here. Apart from the website being shit, the fact you have to register to read the articles leads to about 90% of the commenters not having read the bloody thing, which is usually a shit show
Her very Lowness with her head in a sling
I’m truely sorry but it sounds like a wonderful thing
My pronouncement is that when the Queen dies it will be announced that she is the end of the royal family in England. It’s time.
What is Britain without a royal family?
Logically I am Republican however my heart feels Britain would lose its soul if it became a republic.
The concept of “Royal Families” is a cancer on humanity, and should be consigned to the history books.
The age of kings and queens is over. Enough pandering to “special” people who deserve shit all.
The British media will have a field day most of us won’t give a shite , it will be like Diana all over again, yes and we will be inundated with wailing royalists and those on the bandwagon with their fake tears.
When queeny pops her clogs the it’s time for a republic. Having a royal family is outdated and having to pay even a penny toward them is repugnant.
The Queen, by all accounts, is not a nice, moral, or warm person (see: the way she treated Diana for daring to deviate even slightly from the prison-like protocols of Royal behaviour, the complete lack of sensitivity towards her own grandchildren regarding Dianas death and funeral, the way she has utterly refused to ever take a moral stance on any issue in the entire 70 years of her reign, and the generally unpleasant and self-involved character of all of her children). She was raised in a fucking strange way; every person she encountered since birth being forced to be extremely formal and deeply deferential to her; educated largely in solitude by weird, incredibly posh, religion and tradition-obsessed flunkys, and educated specifically ‘to be a monarch’, whatever the fuck that means. Her own parents would have been distant and remote, living incredibly stifled and also somewhat secretive (affairs, scandals, and so on) lives and probably never demonstrating much of anything that any of us would recognise as familial love. Her peculiar status has left her with a life almost completely devoid of true friendship (perhaps only Prince Philip?), privacy, and really of anything resembling a healthy relationship. In the time since her coronation, our country has undergone such massive societal and cultural changes (while her own world has remained almost completely static), that our lives are almost incomprehensible to her. She has been left trapped in this very strange, isolated, frigid and deeply antiquated little relic, a kind of slow-living museum whose purpose is only weakly and ambiguously defined, and whose importance has decreased with every passing year. Fuck the monarchy, it sucks for them, it does nothing for us; it has no place in a civilised, 21st century society.
>But the reason it is not being questioned is because of the Queen herself.
​
Bollocks. It’s because of rules and laws that make the UK entirely undemocratic.
It’s hilarious how so many people on here are saying ‘get rid of them’ with zero discussion about what they would be replaced with. Which is precisely why Brexit is such a gigantic mess. While the monarchy isn’t perfect, I greatly doubt what would replace it would be better.
Jeez when she dies the public mourning is going to be insufferable. Remember all the hysteria and grief when Tom Moore died last year? And someone got in trouble for partying the weekend that a Prince died (can’t remember his name) last spring?
You can tell I pay zero attention to the royal family.
I’m sure the establishment will coronate someone new ASAP but in reality it should be a referendum question imo.
Do you want to keep subsidising a family at significant cost to live in luxury and attend lavish events meeting powerful people while vetoeing and amending any law that could impact them and their murky tax system or should that money be better spent elsewhere?