Something big is happening. All the talk about letting Ukraine strike into Russia, hitting the over horizon radars, the F16 seem to be finally coming this summer, and now this.
Fingers crossed.
This is a pretty big deal in my estimation. These, together with F-16, will constitute a large increase in capability. I don’t think Ukraine currently has anything similar, and the synergy of airborne radar and control together with F-16 is obvious.
They are to be introduced as the F-16s come, which makes sense.
And now I understand the persistent destruction of s300 and s400 systems. If UA want to operate these planes in a reasonable elevation they need to clear the long range AA that are near their borders. This will be a big boost to UA anti air teams coordination as this should be able to track and jam the long range drones that moscow is using.
Holy shit this is huge. To get the best out of any modern fighters you need airborne early warning, command and control, electronic jamming and data links to make your weapons perform to their very best. I was seriously concerned about Ukraine receiving F-16 without continuous pledged AWAC support from NATO or aligned countries as they would be extremely vulnerable to Russian long range interceptors that on board radar will have no hope of countering.
Not only will I get the best from the F-16, but situational awareness and speed at which the UAF can react to missile and drone threats will massively increase. Linking them in properly with command and control for air defenses will boast the range at which targets can be intercepted and help plug holes in major defensive lines.
This will allow for a serious challenge to Russias already fragile air dominance. It could pave the way for some very fierce air battles, it’ll be the first time two Air Forces both equipped with long range weapons and support will face off during an all out war.
This announcement is as big as the F16 announcement. This is basically small but more modern version of AWACS. The situational awareness of both pilots and air defense will be totally different. It will get many Russians killed and Ukrainians to live to fight another day. However it also needs significant training to put it to good use. Might take a while to get crews ready, depending on when crew training started.
I’m hoping beyond hope that this is true.
F-16 without AWACS will be somewhat limited. Of course they can still use it for ground attack missions (and that alone will be big since the SDBs are one of the most cost effective ways to bring the pain to the enemy), but if they are supported by AWACS and armed with the latest versions of AIM-120 they may actually be able to fight off the Su-35, especially now that Russia is afraid to bring their own AWACS near Ukraine.
Operation Barbarossa 2 plz
reminds me a bit of a railgun out of some anime 😅
I’m surprised Russia has so little air superiority that these relatively bulky slow planes can fly around.
This is huge and will. Give them a huge advantage
I think there’s been some serious long-term planning taking place in NATO/Ukraine backrooms. Russian radar,anti aircraft equipment, airfields and naval ships have systematically been depleted.
Yeeeesss! Had been hoping for this. Sweden stepping up big time, even more important than Gripens.
Is this going to be operated by Ukraine airmen? Or Ukrainians with Swedish accent?
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Something big is happening. All the talk about letting Ukraine strike into Russia, hitting the over horizon radars, the F16 seem to be finally coming this summer, and now this.
Fingers crossed.
This is a pretty big deal in my estimation. These, together with F-16, will constitute a large increase in capability. I don’t think Ukraine currently has anything similar, and the synergy of airborne radar and control together with F-16 is obvious.
They are to be introduced as the F-16s come, which makes sense.
The radar: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erieye
That’s beefy, thanks Sweden
is that a fucken gymnastics bar on top?
It’s so ugly I love it
And now I understand the persistent destruction of s300 and s400 systems. If UA want to operate these planes in a reasonable elevation they need to clear the long range AA that are near their borders. This will be a big boost to UA anti air teams coordination as this should be able to track and jam the long range drones that moscow is using.
Holy shit this is huge. To get the best out of any modern fighters you need airborne early warning, command and control, electronic jamming and data links to make your weapons perform to their very best. I was seriously concerned about Ukraine receiving F-16 without continuous pledged AWAC support from NATO or aligned countries as they would be extremely vulnerable to Russian long range interceptors that on board radar will have no hope of countering.
Not only will I get the best from the F-16, but situational awareness and speed at which the UAF can react to missile and drone threats will massively increase. Linking them in properly with command and control for air defenses will boast the range at which targets can be intercepted and help plug holes in major defensive lines.
This will allow for a serious challenge to Russias already fragile air dominance. It could pave the way for some very fierce air battles, it’ll be the first time two Air Forces both equipped with long range weapons and support will face off during an all out war.
This announcement is as big as the F16 announcement. This is basically small but more modern version of AWACS. The situational awareness of both pilots and air defense will be totally different. It will get many Russians killed and Ukrainians to live to fight another day. However it also needs significant training to put it to good use. Might take a while to get crews ready, depending on when crew training started.
I’m hoping beyond hope that this is true.
F-16 without AWACS will be somewhat limited. Of course they can still use it for ground attack missions (and that alone will be big since the SDBs are one of the most cost effective ways to bring the pain to the enemy), but if they are supported by AWACS and armed with the latest versions of AIM-120 they may actually be able to fight off the Su-35, especially now that Russia is afraid to bring their own AWACS near Ukraine.
Operation Barbarossa 2 plz
reminds me a bit of a railgun out of some anime 😅
I’m surprised Russia has so little air superiority that these relatively bulky slow planes can fly around.
This is huge and will. Give them a huge advantage
I think there’s been some serious long-term planning taking place in NATO/Ukraine backrooms. Russian radar,anti aircraft equipment, airfields and naval ships have systematically been depleted.
Yeeeesss! Had been hoping for this. Sweden stepping up big time, even more important than Gripens.
Is this going to be operated by Ukraine airmen? Or Ukrainians with Swedish accent?