“Despite the ruling, NHS workers and anti-vaxxers gathered to say it’s unfair that they’re being singled out, and they’re being denied freedom of choice.”
Oh you have freedom of choice. But that does not give you freedom from consequence.
Surgeons argued against washing their hands in the 1800 as they couldn’t be as efficient and do as many operations
I mean, the idea of sharing a platform with the terminally stupid should’ve been enough to stop the NHS workers showing up.
Care workers were mandated months ago – I can’t believe that we have to sack Doris the cleaner, but an actual Nurse feels they should be allowed to infect patients.
I’m guessing not many of those present were doctors or senior level nurses. Surely of they are unvaccinated because of anything other than medical reasons they are unfit to be working in a medical environment anyway. A basic trust in science has to be just as important as the ability to care.
If you’re against the mandate, why would you post this blatant smear article?
The government think the pandemic is all over and so they have lifted all restrictions! Why therefore are they making such a fuss about all NHS staff being vaccinated?
From a negotiation perspective, those that do not consent to the jab have the upper hand.
A general strike by all opposed to the mandates would collapse the health service.
With 24h hours, there would be contracts produced ensuring they will not be subject to covid vaccine mandates.
If they organise, they will win.
I’m a great advocate for the vaccine but the issue with this is that immunisation doesn’t stop infection and transmission. What it does do is protect the host from hospitalisation. Therefore, it cannot be right that it is mandatory or you lose your job since it makes little difference to the patient.
If you’ve had COVID recently, advice is that you shouldn’t get the vaccine or a booster jab due to potential adverse reactions.
Natural immunity offers more protection than the vaccine does; all it does is lower the risk of hospitalisation on first infection.
If you’ve not had COVID, the vaccine makes sense; if you’ve already had COVID (and especially if you’ve had it more than once), the vaccine poses too much risk for virtually no benefit. If you’re a healthcare worker, chances are you’ve already had COVID multiple times and as such getting vaccinated is unnecessary.
If they want to do antibody tests on these people to show that they don’t have existing immunity and THEN they refuse the vaccine, that’s one thing; otherwise, it should be left to personal discretion.
People be like: Well we only clap you people if you vaccinate yourself. We don’t care if you already have antibodies or the vaccine doesn’t really cut transmissions.
An unvaccinated person isn’t infectious 7/24 anyway. You know, just as regular people they can infect when they actually catch the virus.
So many people think of themselves as liberals when in actually they would cry if they wouldn’t have the chance to tell others how to live and what to do.
Where were you people before covid when NHS stuff didn’t vaccinate themselves against the flu? Why wasn’t that a problem?
Because that wasn’t trending so you couldn’t feel like you could belong to the smart and progressive group.
We are not able to cut the transmission of the Omicron, yet still have lot less admissions and deaths than last year with restrictions. If you want fire people who actually sacrificed the most in the pandemic, well shame on you.
Why don’t you focus your attention on improving the health of the general public and fight obesity? Or improving ventilation?
(I have two jabs, and all the mandatory ones from childhood.)
The one perspective not often considered is that unvaccinated staff who catch covid are more likely to develop severe symptoms and have to take time off of work. It can be a difference of 5 days with mild symptoms (where at least you can do some remote appointments/admin) to 2 weeks of serious illness that sees you confined to bed and completely unable to work. Especially in care homes, staff attendance is important. There are also the issues of fairness – is it fair for the NHS to have to pay for that additional time off? Or for your already stressed colleagues to have to pick up the slack when you’re not able to work? My instinct is no.
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“Despite the ruling, NHS workers and anti-vaxxers gathered to say it’s unfair that they’re being singled out, and they’re being denied freedom of choice.”
Oh you have freedom of choice. But that does not give you freedom from consequence.
Surgeons argued against washing their hands in the 1800 as they couldn’t be as efficient and do as many operations
I mean, the idea of sharing a platform with the terminally stupid should’ve been enough to stop the NHS workers showing up.
Care workers were mandated months ago – I can’t believe that we have to sack Doris the cleaner, but an actual Nurse feels they should be allowed to infect patients.
I’m guessing not many of those present were doctors or senior level nurses. Surely of they are unvaccinated because of anything other than medical reasons they are unfit to be working in a medical environment anyway. A basic trust in science has to be just as important as the ability to care.
If you’re against the mandate, why would you post this blatant smear article?
The government think the pandemic is all over and so they have lifted all restrictions! Why therefore are they making such a fuss about all NHS staff being vaccinated?
From a negotiation perspective, those that do not consent to the jab have the upper hand.
A general strike by all opposed to the mandates would collapse the health service.
With 24h hours, there would be contracts produced ensuring they will not be subject to covid vaccine mandates.
If they organise, they will win.
I’m a great advocate for the vaccine but the issue with this is that immunisation doesn’t stop infection and transmission. What it does do is protect the host from hospitalisation. Therefore, it cannot be right that it is mandatory or you lose your job since it makes little difference to the patient.
If you’ve had COVID recently, advice is that you shouldn’t get the vaccine or a booster jab due to potential adverse reactions.
Natural immunity offers more protection than the vaccine does; all it does is lower the risk of hospitalisation on first infection.
If you’ve not had COVID, the vaccine makes sense; if you’ve already had COVID (and especially if you’ve had it more than once), the vaccine poses too much risk for virtually no benefit. If you’re a healthcare worker, chances are you’ve already had COVID multiple times and as such getting vaccinated is unnecessary.
If they want to do antibody tests on these people to show that they don’t have existing immunity and THEN they refuse the vaccine, that’s one thing; otherwise, it should be left to personal discretion.
People be like: Well we only clap you people if you vaccinate yourself. We don’t care if you already have antibodies or the vaccine doesn’t really cut transmissions.
An unvaccinated person isn’t infectious 7/24 anyway. You know, just as regular people they can infect when they actually catch the virus.
So many people think of themselves as liberals when in actually they would cry if they wouldn’t have the chance to tell others how to live and what to do.
Where were you people before covid when NHS stuff didn’t vaccinate themselves against the flu? Why wasn’t that a problem?
Because that wasn’t trending so you couldn’t feel like you could belong to the smart and progressive group.
We are not able to cut the transmission of the Omicron, yet still have lot less admissions and deaths than last year with restrictions. If you want fire people who actually sacrificed the most in the pandemic, well shame on you.
Why don’t you focus your attention on improving the health of the general public and fight obesity? Or improving ventilation?
(I have two jabs, and all the mandatory ones from childhood.)
The one perspective not often considered is that unvaccinated staff who catch covid are more likely to develop severe symptoms and have to take time off of work. It can be a difference of 5 days with mild symptoms (where at least you can do some remote appointments/admin) to 2 weeks of serious illness that sees you confined to bed and completely unable to work. Especially in care homes, staff attendance is important. There are also the issues of fairness – is it fair for the NHS to have to pay for that additional time off? Or for your already stressed colleagues to have to pick up the slack when you’re not able to work? My instinct is no.