Woman given suspended jail term for fatal bank push

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv22nrd061ro

by fredster2004

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  2. It’s actually quite amazing how this is misogyny (the belief that women are pure creatures who can’t do any wrong) and misandry (the belief that only men can commit heinous crimes) at the same time. The judge – a man, by the way – literally blamed the bank staff and not this bitch. “Look what you made her do!” As if she had no agency of her own.

  4. I’m only going on the video here, and don’t know anything about the case or prior offences, but I’m struggling to see why people think this woman deserves prison here. She was assaulted first, she pushed back, and something very unfortunate happened. Suspended sentence seems about right.

  5. Every institution in this country hates young people.

    Woman gets attacked and responds with a gentle shove, and then BAM they’re a convicted criminal.

  6. What the hell is going on in this thread? “Oh it was only a little shove”. “She has a right to self-defence (against an 80-year-old with dementia, armed with a handbag).” **A woman died.** The perpetrator should be behind bars.

  8. >Following the hearing, Mrs Coutinho-Lopez’s daughter Michelle Lopez said that she and her family had been left “trapped in an emotional prison”.

    >”It was a consequence of Courtney Richman’s heinous and **vicious behaviour**,” she added.

    Oh my god fuck off, it was her mother that swung at her first. And this whole family *knew* that this woman was suffering from dementia, but still allowed her to be walking around alone, completely unaided and unassisted, to the extent that she was travelling to the bank on financial business. They’re actually lucky that a Nigerian prince didn’t get to her first and see their inheritance converted into gift cards.

    The response here was disproportionate, I agree, but from the perspective of the younger woman and everybody in the bank, this curmudgeonly old woman had come into the bank, had become belligerent and aggressive with staff members, was holding up a massive queue by arguing with the tellers over an error that was causes by either advanced age or a consequence of the dementia. When a young woman harried her to hurry up, she turned around and assaulted her. I think that would piss anybody off, regardless of the woman’s age. 

  9. The people in this thread defending the woman who pushed her are the same crowd who would vilify a man for shoving a woman if she had hit him first.

  10. I wonder if I got pushed to the ground after being a total dick, and had a seizure because I’m epileptic (ie, disabled) and subsequently died, then the person who pushed me would go to prison.

    I bloody well hope not, because I was being a.dick in that hypothetical scenario

  11. I don’t see what is wrong with retaliation after being struck first. Assault is assault, doesn’t matter if it is with a handbag. And if you are too ‘vulnerable’ to not go around hitting people for no reason, then you should be in an asylum or home. Fuck having to deal with all these crazies outside. She should have been swiftly removed from branch after less than 2 mins of listening to her nonsense. Imaging holding up queue for over 30 mins with her BS.

  12. How sad for both involved. The push was retaliation rather than defence; but generally just a bad decision made in the moment.

    A smackhead once flicked a lit ciggy end in my face, he was walking the opposite way so I turned ran up behind him and only after I closed the distance did I stop my self from punching him in the back of the head, likely breaking my hand and potentially killing him.

    I’ve been in more than a few scraps, but I‘ve rarely ever in my life been just that upset over something. I was pissed off because of having a ciggy flicked at me but that didn’t compare to the days maybe even weeks after thinking  about how bad that could have been. To do something so stupid. Not only was it terrifying and horrible to think I could have killed him but embarrassing to think that I’d ruin my life and hurt everyone around me over something like that. 

    That’s a moment where I can say I truly grew up and if it had happened years before, as angry and aggressive as I could be towards people who I felt deserved it, I might have made the wrong choice.

    Which is why I feel sorry for that young girl. If she has empathy then she doesn’t need prison as she’ll carry this for the rest of her life. 

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