Let’s hope not. Love the author. Thanks for the article.
does that mean it would be illegal to use open-source E2EE messengers?
Instant red flag: indiscriminate surveillance proposed because of “CHilD AbUsE” or “TErrORiSM”.
Hol up.
Take away phones from the kids, not surveil adults.
This is terrifying, this is China or Russia level control. How is it even legal? Where is the protection from warantless or unreasonable searches and seizures and privacy of correspondance?
I didn’t know that the fascist far right already has control of Europe as this is exactly what would be done under fascism.
Good news for us exhibitionists
that’s insane.
“Previously unknown images and videos are also to be scrutinised using “artificial intelligence” technology. If a user refuses the scanning, they would be blocked from sending or receiving images, photos, videos and links (Article 10).”
my Google photos ai search cannot tell a difference between a leg and a penis.
Considering that I had my chicken steak marked as unsolicited nudity (tbf, it was very sexy) and had to try different messenger options to send it to a friend, this is seriously disheartening.
Very bad idea tbh.
AI needs to be regulated, just not to protect us
>Probably as a concession to France, the chats of employees of security authorities and the military are also to be exempted from chat control.
Thx EU for making sure the rich and powerful still have protection against this totally intrusive search… I’ve always been pro EU but now it’s really showing authoritarian tendencies akin to China, which we are very quick to criticize as an authoritarian state…
i’m very curious about how they want to prevent the sharing of links without scanning a text message …
The totalitarian cycle remains
Wouldn’t this be unconstitutional in several EU countries? Secrecy of correspondence is very clearly stated in the Portuguese constitution, I don’t think this norm can be transcribed into legislation.
Im really sorry as a Swede for what our EU commissioner has done
I honestly think this is one of the most regarded things I have ever heard.
They are not doing it to combat anything. It’s just an excuse to remove our privacy.
To clarify: it is a PROPOSAL.
Everybody can propose shit, but it has to be voted and emendated so many times we can’t know WHEN, IF and HOW it is going to be.
The emendated proposal from Belgium is LIKELY to be DISCUSSED in the parlament if France removes its veto.
There is not an official text of the law yet.
As always, the boundary between security and control is very thin. Your goal both in the upcoming European elections and every election at every level is to vote for non authoritarian parties or parties that are not linked to authoritarian regimes, so that politicians are less likely to vote for something on the control part of the spectrum!
Working with AI, I personally wouldn’t care is a publicly available script (for instance hosted on GitHub) was to classify a probability of videos or images to be child pornography.
If done correctly, it does NOT scan your photographs (and that’s why it should be publicly available, so to check if it is against the privacy).
Secondly, even if a flawed proposal WAS to be approved, you can still appell against it and submit it to the ECJ!
“Previously unknown images and videos are also to be scrutinised using “artificial intelligence” technology”
Dear God, the story of Google AI that was advising people to eat rocks and use glue to cook pizza isn’t even a week old.
All of this is already dystopian when it comes to privacy, but the implementation of artificial intelligence makes it even more terrifying.
Ahahaha.
Not hotdog irl
Vote for the greens or pirates next week! They oppose that legislation!
This ia why voting matters
This is scary
Sounds like we have a city to burn (Brussels)
Sorry Belgium but you just happen to be in the way.
We will protect your freedom by taking away your freedom! errr….
1984, a handbook.
Wow this is another example of how tyrany can emerge if people care politics less than funny videos on internet.
We are reaching a tipping point where our life’s privacy is at a severe risk of being erased, and with the EU elections just around the corner I am somewhat afraid of what may happen, i do hope this doesn’t pass and France vetos this proposal because otherwise, the future if our privacy will be rather bleak.
Cool. People who actually commits crime will use special apps without scanning and with encryption. Only normal people will be scanned by government (and not the smartest criminals).
Surprised pikachu
Considering that pictures about Dune 2 I had posted were flagged for SUICIDE… yeah, no. Technology is not there, and honestly with all the “rapidly increasing advancements” it did not get any better, so I doubt it will ever get there.
Her sole purpose was always to censor the internet. Even back then when she was just a Minister of Family Affairs in Germany.
Now she got undemocratically put in the highest office of the EU and she can fullfil her plan on a much larger scale. She is dangerous and corrupt. There are many incidents that prove that.
Might? It will. Anything else is naive. Thank you EU, boomer politicians and idiot voter.
Wai what parties/groups in the parliament are vouching for this? Then I know who not to vote for on 6 june
Again EU politicians prove how detached they’re from reality and their citizens
In the end this is a measure to control the mass, give more power to the elites, if you think even for a second that this is for your benefit, you’re naive
The parties who propose or support this shit should not be voted in the next EU elections
so w3 jV$t g0t7a alw4y$ typ3 lik3 +his now?
This is so fucking stupid it hurts to read.
> “Probably as a concession to France, the chats of employees of security authorities and the military are also to be exempted from chat control.”
Cute, rules for thee but not for me…
This is the dystopian future we feared while being excited for the internet 20 years ago.
Everything fucking sucks in the future, send me back to 2004
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Let’s hope not. Love the author. Thanks for the article.
does that mean it would be illegal to use open-source E2EE messengers?
Instant red flag: indiscriminate surveillance proposed because of “CHilD AbUsE” or “TErrORiSM”.
Hol up.
Take away phones from the kids, not surveil adults.
This is terrifying, this is China or Russia level control. How is it even legal? Where is the protection from warantless or unreasonable searches and seizures and privacy of correspondance?
I didn’t know that the fascist far right already has control of Europe as this is exactly what would be done under fascism.
Good news for us exhibitionists
that’s insane.
“Previously unknown images and videos are also to be scrutinised using “artificial intelligence” technology. If a user refuses the scanning, they would be blocked from sending or receiving images, photos, videos and links (Article 10).”
my Google photos ai search cannot tell a difference between a leg and a penis.
Considering that I had my chicken steak marked as unsolicited nudity (tbf, it was very sexy) and had to try different messenger options to send it to a friend, this is seriously disheartening.
Very bad idea tbh.
AI needs to be regulated, just not to protect us
>Probably as a concession to France, the chats of employees of security authorities and the military are also to be exempted from chat control.
Thx EU for making sure the rich and powerful still have protection against this totally intrusive search… I’ve always been pro EU but now it’s really showing authoritarian tendencies akin to China, which we are very quick to criticize as an authoritarian state…
i’m very curious about how they want to prevent the sharing of links without scanning a text message …
The totalitarian cycle remains
Wouldn’t this be unconstitutional in several EU countries? Secrecy of correspondence is very clearly stated in the Portuguese constitution, I don’t think this norm can be transcribed into legislation.
Im really sorry as a Swede for what our EU commissioner has done
I honestly think this is one of the most regarded things I have ever heard.
They are not doing it to combat anything. It’s just an excuse to remove our privacy.
To clarify: it is a PROPOSAL.
Everybody can propose shit, but it has to be voted and emendated so many times we can’t know WHEN, IF and HOW it is going to be.
The emendated proposal from Belgium is LIKELY to be DISCUSSED in the parlament if France removes its veto.
There is not an official text of the law yet.
As always, the boundary between security and control is very thin. Your goal both in the upcoming European elections and every election at every level is to vote for non authoritarian parties or parties that are not linked to authoritarian regimes, so that politicians are less likely to vote for something on the control part of the spectrum!
Working with AI, I personally wouldn’t care is a publicly available script (for instance hosted on GitHub) was to classify a probability of videos or images to be child pornography.
If done correctly, it does NOT scan your photographs (and that’s why it should be publicly available, so to check if it is against the privacy).
Secondly, even if a flawed proposal WAS to be approved, you can still appell against it and submit it to the ECJ!
“Previously unknown images and videos are also to be scrutinised using “artificial intelligence” technology”
Dear God, the story of Google AI that was advising people to eat rocks and use glue to cook pizza isn’t even a week old.
All of this is already dystopian when it comes to privacy, but the implementation of artificial intelligence makes it even more terrifying.
Ahahaha.
Not hotdog irl
Vote for the greens or pirates next week! They oppose that legislation!
This ia why voting matters
This is scary
Sounds like we have a city to burn (Brussels)
Sorry Belgium but you just happen to be in the way.
We will protect your freedom by taking away your freedom! errr….
1984, a handbook.
Wow this is another example of how tyrany can emerge if people care politics less than funny videos on internet.
We are reaching a tipping point where our life’s privacy is at a severe risk of being erased, and with the EU elections just around the corner I am somewhat afraid of what may happen, i do hope this doesn’t pass and France vetos this proposal because otherwise, the future if our privacy will be rather bleak.
You can get in contact with your MEP here.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/portal/en/contact
Cool. People who actually commits crime will use special apps without scanning and with encryption. Only normal people will be scanned by government (and not the smartest criminals).
Surprised pikachu
Considering that pictures about Dune 2 I had posted were flagged for SUICIDE… yeah, no. Technology is not there, and honestly with all the “rapidly increasing advancements” it did not get any better, so I doubt it will ever get there.
Her sole purpose was always to censor the internet. Even back then when she was just a Minister of Family Affairs in Germany.
Now she got undemocratically put in the highest office of the EU and she can fullfil her plan on a much larger scale. She is dangerous and corrupt. There are many incidents that prove that.
Might? It will. Anything else is naive. Thank you EU, boomer politicians and idiot voter.
Wai what parties/groups in the parliament are vouching for this? Then I know who not to vote for on 6 june
Again EU politicians prove how detached they’re from reality and their citizens
In the end this is a measure to control the mass, give more power to the elites, if you think even for a second that this is for your benefit, you’re naive
The parties who propose or support this shit should not be voted in the next EU elections
so w3 jV$t g0t7a alw4y$ typ3 lik3 +his now?
This is so fucking stupid it hurts to read.
> “Probably as a concession to France, the chats of employees of security authorities and the military are also to be exempted from chat control.”
Cute, rules for thee but not for me…
This is the dystopian future we feared while being excited for the internet 20 years ago.
Everything fucking sucks in the future, send me back to 2004