Biden sagt, die Hamas sei „nicht mehr in der Lage“, einen weiteren großen Angriff auf Israel durchzuführen

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1. >The talks were stymied by a central sticking point: Hamas demands guarantees that the war will end and Israeli troops will withdraw from Gaza completely in return for a release of all the hostages, a demand Israel rejects.

   So, basically, none of this matters. Biden isn’t in charge of this, and he never was. Everyone needs to come to terms with the fact that Bibi is driving this car, and nothing anyone does will change his mind.

2. I don’t really get his point. Yes, currently they are not capable of carrying out another major attack, but they will certainly use the next ceasefire to regroup and preprare. They didn’t honor the last ceasefire, they won’t honor the next one either.

   We all want the war to end, but from the perspective of Israel I don’t really see how this would work with Hamas in charge as a neighbour.

3. Break time then ..they need to rearm .

4. Well if Israel collapses the supply tunnels into Egypt, then they won’t have rockets to shoot.

5. For now they can’t, sure. How does he propose to keep it that way?

6. If both American and Israeli governments are in agreement that Hamas is no longer a threat, I believe their intelligence. Who am I to say it’s untrue if their intelligence apparatuses agree? So if I see evidence they are in agreement, ok.

   But if this is just Biden on his own claiming this is the case as a ploy to achieve a change in trajectory he wants, in order to ease his election strain balancing moderate and extreme voter desires, then fuck that and fuck him. This isn’t the sort of claim to bandy about negligently for purposes of electability.

7. Why would Israel leave Gaza and leave Hamas intact?

8. Continue the war until HAMAS formally signs an unconditional surrender.  

   Perhaps on a US Naval vessel?

   HAMAS and Gaza needs to recognize their own defeat. Not be given a “way out.”

9. So now everyone is gonna use that against Israel and say they should have a ceasefire now until Hamas can restock on rockets

10. That maybe true. It’s also irrelevant. Japan was rendered incapable of militarily threatening America long before the Pacific war ended. You don’t call off a war just because your enemy has been weakened. You continue until they are broken.

11. Well last week I had to run for my bomb shelter because they launched rockets. It’s not a major attack but it’s not great is it

12. And then….bam! Another one will happen.

    You can’t fucking a trust the people who say they want to kill Israel any chance possible and for as long as needed.

13. as long as rockets are flying, that’s simply not true

14. “major” doing a lot of work in that sentence

15. Until they are again

16. This war is being handled dismally by the president

17. What a stupid, short sighted, needlessly provocative, red flag waving, dumb shit thing to say. Sincerely a Biden supporter.

18. Didn’t they literally launch a large rocket barrage at Israel with the intent of killing civilians like 4 days ago?
    It makes no sense for Israel to back off as long as Hamas keeps doing stuff like that.

19. “Hamas is weakened.”

    “Hamas is deterred.”

    “Hamas will have to think a thousand times before attempting another attack.”

    We’ve heard this bs after every single ceasefire in the past two decades. We’re done buying it. Hamas has to go. This is not up for debate, every Israeli agrees on that. We cannot return to our homes safely while the perpetrators of the worst massacre of Jews since the holocaust are a few kilometers away, preparing the next one. Biden does not understand the sentiment in the Middle East and Israel at all. This time we finish it, we simply cannot afford any other option.

20. Pinky promise?

21. Wait a few years, when the children whose siblings and mothers killed grow up, they will experience the same problem again.

22. Pops, you may not live to regret those words, but america may.

23. For now. As long as the financial backers exist, terrorists are like Doritos. Crunch all you want, they’ll make more.

24. I think Israel should follow in Americas footsteps and pull out while leaving all their weapons.

25. So? If you are so insistent on keeping them in power, eventually theyll have those capabilities again. This speech was so fucking depressing.

26. This is his half step measure of signaling to Israel now is the time to wind down and end this or give a timeline

27. Hamas is not capable now. But if not stamped out completely, Hamas will be back.

28. Well yeah, getting bombed constantly during one of the most intensive air campaigns since desert storm for the past 8 months would do that to a terrorist group. The question is wether they can rebound.

    Spoiler: they can

29. Its easy to make predictions when you’re not the one who will pay the price for being wrong.

30. They will still continue shooting missiles at Israel until the area gets temporarily conquered, people receive reeducation and are put under supervision.

31. They just launched a barrage of rockets into Israel two days ago. WTF is he talking about?

32. Considering rockets are still being launched at Isreal, I’d beg to differ.

33. I don’t get why he thinks he is capable of making this judgment.