A permanent cease fire would give them time to prosecute betanyahu for corruption
A permanent cease fire would leave Hamas in charge. Totally unacceptable.
Why would anyone think there would be a permanent ceasefire if the terrorists are still out there?
Optics, now Biden White House can save face and say “we tried”. These proposals are for TV. Let’s be serious. Nobody really believes we are putting our foot down to Israel
“Israel” describes, or “one guy who needs to keep this up to stave off corruption charges” describes?
An exercise in nonsense. Of course Israel won’t accept that. I can’t imagine what distortion they’re coming up with to say the hostage families support it.
Israel has been clear from the start–they’re not stopping until they get the hostages back. Why in the world would the hostage families want Israel to stop?!
If Israel isn’t interested in a peaceful resolution that’s fine. They are a sovereign country. But the US should stop supporting and arming them if they refuse to listen to reason. And if it’s reasonable that they may be committing war crimes then sanctions should be on the table. They shouldn’t be treated any different than any nation that refuses to recognize international law.
Cool, how about no more US funding for Israel. Bluff called?
If Biden softens his stance against the ICC, then maybe Bibi will start to see sense. The man’s already going to be disgracefully ousted. He needs to make sure his neck remains intact.
The length of hostages still being hostage was totally unacceptable, and there were no conditions about treatment while still in captivity.
A ceasefire and peace deal should obviously eventually happen, but there’s still plenty of tunnels and Hamas operatives that need to be taken down before Israel can just agree, although hopefully Netanyahu can eventually sign
I’m all for a reconstruction of Gaza, with a ton of additional security for Israel in place, and conditions created if/when Hamas breaks the ceasefire, which won’t be pretty for them. There should be an immigration plan to surrounding/supporting countries if/when that happens so displaced citizens have a plan that can go into immediate effect to avoid casualties. Additional governance should be put in place with any Hamas terrorist or Oct 7 participant being jailed for life
Netanyahu has consistently attacked Democrats and thrown his support behind Republicans. Why can’t Biden do the same? Fuck the Likud party.
So who tf proposed this ceasefire? Biden presented this as an Israeli proposal.
God damn the media is being so unbelievably manipulative and misleading. Any PERMANENT ceasefire in this deal is step #2. First is a temporary ceasefire. All Netanyahu is saying is that he won’t agree to the PERMANENT ceasefire in the 2nd phase without knowing those 3 objectives are accomplished. And they are reasonable objectives for Israel. He is NOT rejecting this ceasefire deal like the media is trying to suggest. We all worry about foreign influence campaigns when our domestic journalism is just as bad.
This puts Netanyahu on an island. When the entire world and all negotiating parties, including your own citizens want this war to end and you say, “lol no.” It falls on you.
ok….but you don’t have the capacity to clear out the terrorists. It is almost a year and the Hamas is very much alive and well.
Before 10/7/23 there was one.
Dude wants Trump. He’d going to sabotage Biden everyday until the election.
SERVE THE ICC WARRANT. Then let’s see how he feels. Fucking reckless idiot.
The war cabinet and bibi aren’t one in the same.
I think Gantz and Gallant seem kind of fed up with Bibi and I could see them working to replace him.
I know Gallant is also Likud, but he seems more reasonable.
The USA invaded and destabilised two countries half way across the world when it was attacked in 2001.
The last time a neighbour (Mexico) was involved in a territorial dispute / war they stole half their territory and displaced tens of thousands in the following years .
What do they except Israel to do with Hamas next door ?!?
This war is a double-edged sword for Israel.
One one side, it helps Bibi stay in power and avoid jail…
…on the other it keeps Hamas in charge, starving and killing the hostages and the civilians.
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A permanent cease fire would give them time to prosecute betanyahu for corruption
A permanent cease fire would leave Hamas in charge. Totally unacceptable.
Why would anyone think there would be a permanent ceasefire if the terrorists are still out there?
Optics, now Biden White House can save face and say “we tried”. These proposals are for TV. Let’s be serious. Nobody really believes we are putting our foot down to Israel
“Israel” describes, or “one guy who needs to keep this up to stave off corruption charges” describes?
An exercise in nonsense. Of course Israel won’t accept that. I can’t imagine what distortion they’re coming up with to say the hostage families support it.
Israel has been clear from the start–they’re not stopping until they get the hostages back. Why in the world would the hostage families want Israel to stop?!
If Israel isn’t interested in a peaceful resolution that’s fine. They are a sovereign country. But the US should stop supporting and arming them if they refuse to listen to reason. And if it’s reasonable that they may be committing war crimes then sanctions should be on the table. They shouldn’t be treated any different than any nation that refuses to recognize international law.
Cool, how about no more US funding for Israel. Bluff called?
If Biden softens his stance against the ICC, then maybe Bibi will start to see sense. The man’s already going to be disgracefully ousted. He needs to make sure his neck remains intact.
The length of hostages still being hostage was totally unacceptable, and there were no conditions about treatment while still in captivity.
A ceasefire and peace deal should obviously eventually happen, but there’s still plenty of tunnels and Hamas operatives that need to be taken down before Israel can just agree, although hopefully Netanyahu can eventually sign
I’m all for a reconstruction of Gaza, with a ton of additional security for Israel in place, and conditions created if/when Hamas breaks the ceasefire, which won’t be pretty for them. There should be an immigration plan to surrounding/supporting countries if/when that happens so displaced citizens have a plan that can go into immediate effect to avoid casualties. Additional governance should be put in place with any Hamas terrorist or Oct 7 participant being jailed for life
Netanyahu has consistently attacked Democrats and thrown his support behind Republicans. Why can’t Biden do the same? Fuck the Likud party.
So who tf proposed this ceasefire? Biden presented this as an Israeli proposal.
God damn the media is being so unbelievably manipulative and misleading. Any PERMANENT ceasefire in this deal is step #2. First is a temporary ceasefire. All Netanyahu is saying is that he won’t agree to the PERMANENT ceasefire in the 2nd phase without knowing those 3 objectives are accomplished. And they are reasonable objectives for Israel. He is NOT rejecting this ceasefire deal like the media is trying to suggest. We all worry about foreign influence campaigns when our domestic journalism is just as bad.
This puts Netanyahu on an island. When the entire world and all negotiating parties, including your own citizens want this war to end and you say, “lol no.” It falls on you.
ok….but you don’t have the capacity to clear out the terrorists. It is almost a year and the Hamas is very much alive and well.
Before 10/7/23 there was one.
Dude wants Trump. He’d going to sabotage Biden everyday until the election.
SERVE THE ICC WARRANT. Then let’s see how he feels. Fucking reckless idiot.
The war cabinet and bibi aren’t one in the same.
I think Gantz and Gallant seem kind of fed up with Bibi and I could see them working to replace him.
I know Gallant is also Likud, but he seems more reasonable.
The USA invaded and destabilised two countries half way across the world when it was attacked in 2001.
The last time a neighbour (Mexico) was involved in a territorial dispute / war they stole half their territory and displaced tens of thousands in the following years .
What do they except Israel to do with Hamas next door ?!?
This war is a double-edged sword for Israel.
One one side, it helps Bibi stay in power and avoid jail…
…on the other it keeps Hamas in charge, starving and killing the hostages and the civilians.
Netanyahu needs to go (to prison, preferably)