Pwease…
Give the Union the right to tax, to raise and maintain an Army, and to rule out local "national" laws?
We could rise as the 3rd power bloc, albeit aligned with the USA, but able to follow Europe's interests.
by throwingitawaytbh
Pwease…
Give the Union the right to tax, to raise and maintain an Army, and to rule out local "national" laws?
We could rise as the 3rd power bloc, albeit aligned with the USA, but able to follow Europe's interests.
by throwingitawaytbh
27 comments
After RE lost 20+ seats and ID got 10, sure
Only if it actually becomes more liberal. With all the anti free speech and “disinformation laws”, chat controls… No thank you, we have enough of that at home already and don’t need more of that.
In theory I’m all for a strong EU that can stand up to the Chinese, US or Russians. But not by becoming like the Chinese.
Why tf would you rule out national elections? We should have local, national and EU level elections. Not every decision should be take at the EU level.
For example, are you going to impose polish abortion laws onto the french? Or french abortion laws onto the polish? And if so, why? You’re going to make one of the two hate the EU and weaken EU wide unity. Moral matters should be decided at a national level according to the local culture, if you suppress local culture the EU is eventually going to crumble.
Besides, I mean, every large nation like the US or China has local elections together with nation wide ones.
Losing all national and international independence, losing the seat at the UN, having German police monitor my protests, and opening my door to all Eastern Europeans, just so European bosses can unite to make even more profit without me seeing any of it trickle down?
Nope. I’d rather move to Switzerland.
I’m not sharing a country with Fr*nce lol
No. I am too racist. I want to federalise italy any day now tho
>rule out local “national” laws?
I don’t think you know what ‘federalise’ means.
Never. Not until we get direct election of the Commission and Council
Nah. I like how we’re together but separate.
If I speak traitor. If I speak.
The only thing that needs a form of federalisation is Portugal.
And we shall call it The Kalmar Union 2.0
No
Only if we can have a badass continental army to scare the hoes
Ok but only if we can build a completely new capital city from the ground up somewhere. Imagine creating the greatest country to ever exist and then having Brussels as your capital.
Eurobros will do anything to avoid spending 2% on defence
we already give too much stuff to the poors
Lol fuck no.
Errrrr I think you are completely insane if you think this is a good thing. Calling to unite vastly different populations who speak many different languages has been disastrous and led to a bloodbath almost every time it’s been attempted. And it’s far from necessary to achieve vibrant economies flourishing societies.
That is an absolute nightmare scenario.
Having politicians from countries that are performing politically, financially and economically etc. worse comparitively to us, dictate laws and policies for us, is a recipie for disaster.
And people who i consider for a lack of a better word, culturally inferior having influence on my country, no thanks.
I wouldn’t want Poland and Hungary to have a say in the laws regarding gender, abortion and sexuality in Denmark, and I think they wouldn’t want the reverse either.
I wouldn’t want Spanish tax policies in Denmark, because they wouldn’t work and also they are objectively worse.
And I wouldn’t want Swedish or Finnish politicians to have a say, whether or not I get to buy a beer after 20:00, fuck that shit.
So no thanks to federalism. Federalists can fuck off
As much as I appreciate your idealism, it would never work. These multi-ethnic states always end up with one group despising and/or ruling over another (see Yugoslavia, Austria-Hungary, People’s Republic of China, &c., &c.).
The EU is the best solution we have for European unity whilst maintaining our own distinct identities and cultures, at least in my eyes. Are there things the Union could do better? A million. But to to remove our national laws would be foolish, to impose our laws on over twenty states that already have their own (mostly) accepted laws would end in catastrophe, how would you justify your law’s superiority to every one else’s?
The one thing I do agree with is your wish for the EU to raise is its own defence force, we would all profit from being militarily independent from the US and being able to protect ourselves, but for that we needn’t federalise.
You miss the Iberian Union, don’t you?
I would rather vote for a Left party than vote for a cringe party like Volt
That would be the fastest way to break up the EU.
Can’t we just unite and form the second Roman Empire?
If you want to know what “federalized” EU would be like please come take a look at Belgium.
Only things like Defense could be federalized.
Unironically do that but with the whole planet. And start to colonize space.