If they were to ban the breed, would it mean seizing existent pets or just banning and cracking down on breeders?
I don’t own one but I know a lad that does, and he’s very responsible with it. I’d hate to see it taken from him
What does the race of the dog have to do with anything? We already have plenty of types of dogs in Ireland that bite, why single this breed out?
‘We need to vet the owners’ why? Are you vetted?
Yes they may bite more often and may not fit in with our white western normative ideas of what a dog should be, but to single them out is simply **discrimination**!
I think the problem is that the type of person who owns these dogs (with a few exceptions) will simply move onto another “hard man” breed when XLBullies get banned. Be that Rottweilers or Dobermanns or Caucasian Ovcharkas.
While I think doing something about them isn’t necessarily a bad thing, if it’s the only thing they’re going to do it will be a fairly pointless exercise.
That’s aside from the fact that banning something and not enforcing it at all is even more pointless.
>clear need
But will he fucking do it?
The thing is there will always be a “dangerous breed” dog that does the rounds and it’s easy to put the blame on them.
How often do you see people with dogs regardless of the breed have the dog either pulling on the lead or absolutely no recall for the dog if it’s off it’s lead.
My point being, there is as much of an onus of owners to know how to handle their dog regardless of the breed.
Does he happen to know anyone in the government who could do this?
Then do it
Any breed ban will be completely unenforceable due to the expense of genetic testing.
Mandatory obedience training for all dog license applications
I love dogs and always will. They are wonderful animals but this needs to be addressed.
Owners are definitely partly responsible for their behaviour. With these particular dogs it’s inherent but it’s their environment as well. Raise them from puppy in a socialised environment and train them as soon as possible. It makes a difference.
With all due respect to the girl that died, it’s always a particular type that seems to own them. People want to look tough and all hard etc. Onus needs to be applied to owners as well.
If the ban on the xls come in dose that mean u can’t breed them anymore or do all the xl bully’s get taking away and get put down
Senior Irish politician jumps on popular issue he didn’t care about last week. Scarcely news
Ban Ban Ban
The best way to deal with these is to target vets, the dogs heads are too big so they almost always require caesarean section to give birth.
Make it a requirement for any dogs to be spayed at the time of c-section, if vets don’t do it they will lose their license to practice so they will actually have an avenue for enforcement, and it improves the welfare of animals that have dangerous pregnancies, in two generations you’ll have sorted the most problematic dog breeds with the worst breeding practices.
Perhaps there needs to be more enforcement of the laws currently in place and then some sort of test like the driving test to get a dog licence, then if the breed is on the restricted list you need to do a harder test or something.
If we are going to start banning living things as a whole breed because some of them attack people then why do we still have priests?
Need for a ban but also enforcement otherwise it will be meaningless.
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If they were to ban the breed, would it mean seizing existent pets or just banning and cracking down on breeders?
I don’t own one but I know a lad that does, and he’s very responsible with it. I’d hate to see it taken from him
What does the race of the dog have to do with anything? We already have plenty of types of dogs in Ireland that bite, why single this breed out?
‘We need to vet the owners’ why? Are you vetted?
Yes they may bite more often and may not fit in with our white western normative ideas of what a dog should be, but to single them out is simply **discrimination**!
I think the problem is that the type of person who owns these dogs (with a few exceptions) will simply move onto another “hard man” breed when XLBullies get banned. Be that Rottweilers or Dobermanns or Caucasian Ovcharkas.
While I think doing something about them isn’t necessarily a bad thing, if it’s the only thing they’re going to do it will be a fairly pointless exercise.
That’s aside from the fact that banning something and not enforcing it at all is even more pointless.
>clear need
But will he fucking do it?
The thing is there will always be a “dangerous breed” dog that does the rounds and it’s easy to put the blame on them.
How often do you see people with dogs regardless of the breed have the dog either pulling on the lead or absolutely no recall for the dog if it’s off it’s lead.
My point being, there is as much of an onus of owners to know how to handle their dog regardless of the breed.
Does he happen to know anyone in the government who could do this?
Then do it
Any breed ban will be completely unenforceable due to the expense of genetic testing.
Mandatory obedience training for all dog license applications
I love dogs and always will. They are wonderful animals but this needs to be addressed.
Owners are definitely partly responsible for their behaviour. With these particular dogs it’s inherent but it’s their environment as well. Raise them from puppy in a socialised environment and train them as soon as possible. It makes a difference.
With all due respect to the girl that died, it’s always a particular type that seems to own them. People want to look tough and all hard etc. Onus needs to be applied to owners as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/
As sound bites go….
If the ban on the xls come in dose that mean u can’t breed them anymore or do all the xl bully’s get taking away and get put down
Senior Irish politician jumps on popular issue he didn’t care about last week. Scarcely news
Ban Ban Ban
The best way to deal with these is to target vets, the dogs heads are too big so they almost always require caesarean section to give birth.
Make it a requirement for any dogs to be spayed at the time of c-section, if vets don’t do it they will lose their license to practice so they will actually have an avenue for enforcement, and it improves the welfare of animals that have dangerous pregnancies, in two generations you’ll have sorted the most problematic dog breeds with the worst breeding practices.
Perhaps there needs to be more enforcement of the laws currently in place and then some sort of test like the driving test to get a dog licence, then if the breed is on the restricted list you need to do a harder test or something.
If we are going to start banning living things as a whole breed because some of them attack people then why do we still have priests?
Need for a ban but also enforcement otherwise it will be meaningless.